Wheres the isnt that special . Thats the church lady. She returns to snl and has a rare interview with you know who. And lets get right to new reaction from donald trump about House Speaker paul ryans reluctance to back him. And heres what the presumptive nominee told my colleague chuck todd in an interview airing this morning on meet the press. Im never stunned by anything that happens in politics. But im not so im not yeah, i was blindsided a little bit because he spoke to me three weeks ago and it was a very nice, encouraging call. Dont know him well. Met him one time, but have a nice relationship with him and all of a sudden he goes on and does this number. Im not sure what he has in mind, but thats okay. His comments come days before hes set to meet privately with the House Speaker and rnc chairman. Trump is taking a break from the campaign trail after once again going after Hillary Clinton and the former president for his past indiscretions. Shes married to a man, and nobody, nobody perhaps in the history of politics was worse to women or abused women more than bill clinton. And shes taking negative ads on me. I mean, heres a guy, he was impeached because he lied. He lied. Do you remember the fabulous i did not have sex with that woman, and then a couple of months later, im guilty. And shes taking negative ads on me for the democrats, Bernie Sanders is holding a rally in new jersey today ahead of next months primary. But West Virginia is next on the primary calendar for both democrats and republicans. There are 37 delegates at stake for democrats on tuesday and 34 delegates for republicans. Lets check in with nbcs katy tur whos been on the trump beat from day one. Katy, good to see you. With donald trump going after the clintons personal past, can we expect that to be, you know, the campaigns main line of attack from here on out . I dont think its going to be the main line of attack. I think its going to be one of many. Hes going after Hillary Clinton for her position with nafta, hes going after Hillary Clinton for benghazi, for her email scandal, for talking about miners and saying that coal miners jobs should be gone because she wants clean energy. Hes going to take everything he can and throw it all at her at the same time to try and take her down a notch. Hes trying to hit her credibility. Hes trying to hit her strength and stamina, which many find to be a veiled sexist attack. Hes also going to bring in as hes proven in the past four days where hes been campaigning, hes not afraid to go into bill clintons past, her past with him. Take a listen to how he put it yesterday. When Foreign Policy, hillary is trigger happy. She is, shes trigger happy. Shes got a bad temperament. By the way and her husband learned that a few times, didnt he . Bad temper. No, bad temper. Can you imagine look, can you imagine another four years of the clintons . Seriously. Can you imagine, seriously, its time to move on, folks. Weve got to do it right. Its time to move on. A couple things from that. Can you imagine another four years of a clinton in the white house . That perhaps is his best general election argument, trying to appeal to those who either dont like Hillary Clinton or were not happy with bill clintons eight years or frankly just want somebody new. Thats when we saw when it certainly came to jeb bush. Secondly, its the asides about bill clintons past that weve been seeing. Its not necessarily a fullfledged direct attack. He just kind of mentions it in an aside, and the audience groans and laughs. One thing about the audience that we see a lot lately, we have these vendors outside who are selling pins that say hillary for prison or much cruder versions of antihillary pin, and so many people in these rallies are wearing them, or the tshirts, and it goes to show you just how disliked she is, at least on the gop side. Donald trump is trying to figure out how many of those dont like her on the independent or maybe the democratic side. And hes going to try and bring them into the fold. Im sure well see more of that as we approach the general election. I want to ask you, do you get a sense that hes keeping the bullseye on the clintons and their past as an effort to kind of keep the spotlight and downplay the problems hes been having unifying the Republican Party . Absolutely. How will that hurt his chances Going Forward . I dont think its going to hurt his chances, but i think hes trying to change the conversation from maybe the issues hes having with the Republican Party. Hes still talking about it on the campaign trail. Hes still talking about speaker ryan, talking to chuck todd, claiming that he had this call with him after new york. The Speakers Office is disputing this, and they only had one phone call in march. Donald Trumps Campaign saying that was the phone call they were talking about. Not entirely clear how they were disputing paul ryans dispute. But that is an example of how he is not necessarily having the party unify behind him. For the speaker of the house to come out, whos really the leader of the Republican Party, for him to come out and say that he doesnt necessarily endorse or support the republican nominee yet, that is a major breaking, huge, giant thing. And its one thing that donald trump is going to have to figure out a way to come to come to terms with and fix because frankly, he needs the fundraising. He needs the party to unify around him so that he can fundraise to go up against Hillary Clinton. And shes probably going to be running a billiondollar campaign against him. Frances . To be a fly on the wall in that meeting on thursday with ryan and trump. Katy tur, as always, thank you. Appreciate your time. Want to go to Nbcs Kristen Welker in our washington bureau. Good morning to you. As we know, Hillary Clinton has been hitting back against trumps Foreign Policy, but when it comes to the strategy and to a bite back in dealing with trumps resurrection of her husbands past indiscretions, how hard will she bite back, if at all . Hey, frances. Well, good morning to you. We got a glimpse of how shes going to respond to these attacks earlier this week when she essentially brushed them off and said, hey, we dealt with that in the 90s. If he wants to bring all of that back up, go ahead. Ive already survived all of those battles. So i think thats going to be her tactic. But frances, shes going to be very careful not to respond to every single attack. Her Campaign Officials say shes not going to get down into the mud with donald trump. I think what you will see, on the other hand, her surrogates are going to agressively go after donald trump every time he makes one of these assertions, one of her top surrogates telling me their argument is going to be, youre going to really hold this person responsible for what her husband did so many years ago . So theyre really going to try to discredit that line of attack. But in terms of the candidate herself, i think shes going to be focused on drawing distinctions with his Foreign Policy and then unearthing and reminding voters of all of the controversial comments that hes made towards muslims, towards women, towards immigrants, they think that is a stronger way to take on donald trump. The challenge for the Clinton Campaign though is to figure out which attacks to respond to and which to ignore. And its one thing being defensive and being offensive, especially when it comes to donald trump and his past as well. I want to ask you on the other side, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have no planned events in West Virginia ahead of the primary on tuesday. So Bernie Sanders, i know later this afternoon in piscataway, new jersey, hes going to hold an event there. Where exactly are they campaigning around that this week and what is the strategy on their calculation . Look, i think part of the strategy is both sides feel as though West Virginia there the cake there is already baked. Senator sanders looks very strong if that state. So theyre looking forward to some of these other states. Lets look. I think we have a graphic of where we can expect to see these two candidates in the coming days. Senator sanders will be in new jersey today. Hell be in california on monday and then oregon. Secretary clinton heads to virginia tomorrow. And then on tuesday, its kentucky. But that state, frances, california, california, california, it carries the most delegates. If youre looking forward, you have to imagine both of these candidates are going to spend a whole lot of time there. Senator sanders will likely spend big in terms of ad campaigns there. For the Clinton Campaign, theyre trying to figure out how to allocate their resources right now as she fights on two fronts, donald trump and senator sanders. So theyre going to have to figure that out. But i anticipate we are going to see her there quite a bit between now and the june primary. All right. Nbcs Kristen Welker from our washington bureau, as always, thank you very much. Thank you. Many republicans say Donald Trumps run for the president has caused you have with the deepest divides within the party in recent memory, but the candidate himself, he doesnt see that as a problem. Does the party have to be together . Does it have to be unified . Im very different than everybody else perhaps thats ever run for office. I actually dont think so. I think that it doesnt have to be unified . No, i dont think so. I think it would be better if it were unified. I think there would be something good about it, but i dont think it has to be unified. How do you win . Because i think im going to go out and im going to get millions of people from the democrats. Im going to get bernie people to vote because they like me on trade. I have to stay true to my principles also. And im a conservative, but dont forget, this is called the Republican Party. Its not called the conservative party. I want to bring in rosie gray, political reporter at buzzfeed and political reporter for the washington post, thank you both for being with me this morning. So rosie, lets get right to it. When it comes to trump saying that although we were reporting right after the indiana win, that his goal was to unify the party, and thousand were hearing this from him now. Is it because were hearing from mitt romney, the bushes, paul ryan now, and can he pull off a win without a unified gop behind him . Well, were really were really in uncharted territory. We havent really seen a situation in which the House Speaker is not supporting the nominee whos of his own party. So it really remains to be seen whether or not donald trump can pull off any sort of party unity and whether it will have any impact on whats going to happen in november. You know, when it comes to the unity there, theres some degree of it in the antitrump movement, spending 50 million since january, that uptick after nevada. Phillip, as you reported this week, you look at it and you see them coming in heavy in indiana. You know they kind of did the hands up thing in new york and the northeastern states as well. So would you say it didnt work primarily because there was really no other option that they were giving voters out there, no other alternative . Yeah, i think thats definitely part of it. The field is so splinter, they didnt solidify on who they wanted to stand up against him. The establishment couldnt decide. And they they spent too late, they started spending after nevada. That fracturing, when donald trump says that he doesnt need republicans to win, i think its delusional. I mean, he absolutely one of the reasons hes seen so unfavorable is they view him unfavorable to everyone else as well. I think he needs to slolidify hs base. Which is why its so important to see who hell pick as his running mate. Whats the game man now that hes the last gop candidate left in the race . Here we go, a day of reckoning, i think as you put it. Well, theres a couple options. One thing that a lot of people are starting to focus on is downballot races and trying to preserve the partys majorities in the senate and the house, try to protect those candidates from trump, basically. So thats one thing that people are focusing on. Theres also still some talk of trying to recruit some sort of thirdparty conservative option. But theres a lot of logistical challenges there. Theres no clear person who that person would be. That would be a more unlikely scenario, i think. Were talking about his rally yesterday in Washington State when it comes to the attacks that were seeing, maybe, you know, as we were hearing from katy tur to deflect from the problem and party unity that he doubled down on his new favorite clinton attack. Lets take a quick listen to that. Shes playing the womens card. Shes going, did you hear that donald trump raised his voice while speaking to a woman . Oh, im sorry. Im sorry. I mean, all of the men were petrified to speak to women anymore . We may raise our voice. You know what . The women get it better than we do, folks. All right . They get it better than we do. So were hearing from that on the side hes kind of got the side fight back and forth on twitter with Elizabeth Warren. So rosie, does trump just not care about the poor image among women . You hear from him, you hear from his surrogates and saying hes doing strongly, but look at these numbers. 70 unfavorable. Does he need to now care . Does he need to change if he wants to win in november . Well, he does. I mean, he does need to care about that because he is so unpopular broadly among many different groups including women. And he is going to need to win more women in order to win in november. Whether or not he actually does i mean, his behavior does not indicate that he is making a real effort to, you know, to change his rhetoric towards women, et cetera. So i dont know whether he can really climb that mountain. Do you think, rosie, that we can eventually see Melania Trump or ivanka trump coming out a little bit more and hearing from them more now that i think we lost you there. Or maybe a light. Because we see a silhouette from you. Phill phillip, do you think when it comes to that that we might see more of his wife and daughter to help him out . Yeah. He actually tried to do that earlier in the campaign. Right. And i thought that we would continue to see it, but its kind of been there, then back, then not so much anymore. Right. I dont know that it did much good when he tried last time either. If you look at where he polls the most recent post abc poll, hes doing 20 points worse than mitt romney among white women. The only time they havent since 1972 was for bill clinton in 92 and 96, but he needs those white women. They normally vote republican. And right now theyre favoring Hillary Clinton according to most recent polling and thats a big problem. Of course, well see again the allimportant running mate. Well see how that may come into play. Rosie, nice to have you back only to say goodbye. I wish we had more time. To both of you, glad to have you with me this morning, rosie and phillip. Coming up, a look at the short list of Vice President ial candidates that could join the trump ticket. Amazing is moving like one. 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Its all part of his line of attacks against Hillary Clinton who he says is using the socalled woman card. Joining me now is victoria defrances defrancesco, professor at the university of texas. As always, good to have you with me. I have to say, and now that the attacks are coming hard even personally against Hillary Clinton and her husband, why would donald trump bring her into the mix here . Why would he even bother picking this fight against Elizabeth Warren when he can focus on Hillary Clinton, and what will that do as far as those woman card attacks against her . Good morning, frances. More than anything, its red meat to the crowd. You know, he is still in primary mode. So hes trying to rile up that base. We saw him in West Virginia. He still has a couple more primaries. And he really wants to cement that frontrunner status. So he does this. And Elizabeth Warren, being a very progressive democrat, quite to the left of Hillary Clinton, is able to rile up the crowd. So i think as we get more into the general election, were going to see that focus off of Elizabeth Warren and more onto Hillary Clinton. But right now its red meat. But dont you think that because the general election really is right here in the forefront that he would start thinking this could hurt him in the general election, especially knowing how poorly hes done in polls with women . I really think, frances, hes waiting to pivot. Hes going to give himself a couple more weeks, and then the transitions going to happen slowly because its not going to happen overnight. I think were going to see donald trump and his advisers pull him in that general category. But again, its not going to happen overnight. He has this brand of being boisterous and out front. So hes going to have to tone it down very slowly so that he doesnt alienate that base that has come to love him for speaking his mind, saying what he thinks. Well, talking about a demographic that may already be feeling that, women and minorities as well as interesting now that were looking ahead to see which running mate, which potential vp could actually bridge that. Three influential top the hills list of early contenders with who could run with trump, Susana Martinez, Tennessee Congress come Marsha Blackburn and nikki haley. She was vocal in slamming trump from day one and saying nope, not going to do it, not going to be the running mate, although she will support him for the nominee. In your report you say Susana Martinez is the yin to Donald Trumps yang. And this is despite governor martinezs support for marco rubio and denouncing his antiimnant commeantii antiimmigrant comments. So its interesting, why are you even entertaining that and going so far as calling her a shero . Right. So a couple weeks ago, bill oreilly said that Susana Martinez would be the only pick for donald trump to have because she would be so effective in helping him in the general election. The big caveat is would she accept . You know, suspending that and saying lets say that he does a really good job of convincing her and wooing ining her, and acce accepts, she would do so much to help him not with the latino vote because the latino ship has sailed. Theyre not going to support donald trump. Even in new mexico, theyre not mostly latino, right . Hispanic . Exactly. When she ran for governor both in 2010 and 2014, her base of support was among white republicans. So we have to disavow ourselves of the notion that Susana Martinez would help with latinos. Martinez would help with the gop establish ment establishment. The establishment loves her. The Tea Party Really likes her. Shes that happy medium where shes against amnesty. She was tough on drivers licenses for illegal immigrants, but at the same time, she supports comprehensive Immigration Reform and denounced the trump comments about rapists and drug dealers when referring to undocumented persons. So shes that happy medium. She could be the good cop to his bad cop on immigration. On immigration, right. You know, she says she has no interest in being trumps running mate, but what would change that . I think if he promised to tone it down when it came to immigration. Both on the tone and maybe he approaches Susana Martinez and says, hey, lets find a middle ground of how we can deal with immigration more logically, more responsibly. So maybe if he puts that on the table, she considers that. You know, she is a woman. She is a woman, and he needs that demographic. Its not going to close the gender gap, but at the very least, its going to of tsoften of the criticism weve seen thus far with donald trump. On the other side, were also hearing marco rubio floated around as another pick as well. For those who think yes, a latino Vice President could help among latinos, but then you go back and, like, really . In his words, little marco is going to be the one who could possibly be running beside him . Is that actually possible . Anything is possible in politics, frances. And ive come to believe that over these nine months in particular. But i do think the marco pick would be especially hard because of the level of tension between the two. If im going to see a running mate from the gop cast of characters from the primary season, i would say maybe a john kasich, a chris christie, a ben carson. I think marco rubio would be very difficult because, again, hes not going to help that much with the latino vote, and theres already so much bad blood. So if youre going to try to get a latino on the ticket, why not go with someone where you dont have that history . Well, that history of, you know, sweating too much, small hands, bad makeup, wetting himself, it goes on and on. So yeah, that would be dug up. Thank you so much for the discussion this morning, as always, victoria, i appreciate your being with us. Still ahead, the surprising reason why nearly half of trumps supporters say theyre voting for him. I have asthma. One of many pieces in my life. So when my asthma symptoms kept coming back on my longterm control medicine. I talked to my doctor and found a missing piece in my asthma treatment with breo. Oncedaily breo prevents asthma symptoms. Breo is for adults with asthma not well controlled on a longterm asthma control medi, like an inhaled corticosteroid. Breo wont replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. Breo opens up airways to help improve breathing for a full 24 hours. 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And towards the end of the skit, look, fake ted cruz appears, trying out his new role as none other than, as she would say it, satan. Donald trump may have all but clinched the republican nomination, but hes still out on the campaign trail pushing hard for new voters. We are going to win so much more than anybody ever. Were bringing in democrats. Were bringing in independents. And really importantly you know what were bringing in . Were bringing in people that have never voted before. Its amazing how many there are. People that never voted before are coming up to me. Theyre 30, 40, 50, 60 years old. They say, mr. Trump, ive never had anybody that i wanted to vote for before. I want to bring in david, director of suffolk universitys Political Research center. David, good morning to you. And nice to have you with me. When you look at the polls so far, what are the polls missing about Donald Trumps support . Well, theyre recording how strong he is in the Republican Party, and hes morphed a lot since he announced last spring. But among general election voters, his unfavorable has stayed fix at 61 since last ju july. When it comes to his popularity and why were seeing now his position as a presumptive nominee and looking ahead to the general election, is it possible that the polls here have underestimated his popularity in some sense . I dont think so. I think the general election polling has been pretty consistent. In the primary i think in some of the northeastern states, for example, they can underrepresent what his actual tally was, and in other states, overrepresented, like in the Iowa Republican caucus, for example, all of the polls had him winning, and ted cruz won that. So it really fend depends on t state. But i think the state of the race right now is Donald Trumps unfavorable, which is at 61 , and it was at exactly 61 in july, in september, and today in the most recent poll. The difference, though, is that Hillary Clintons unfavorable has creeped up. Its gone from 47 to 51 , and now its 54 . So her unfavorable has gone up, and Donald Trumps has stayed fixed. Its interesting, too when you talk about polls that show this part of this race, where half of trumps supporters will be voting for him, you know, is a sign that they love him or they want him as president but to block Hillary Clinton from the white house and also vice versa. So you talk to many voters out there that and weve heard that as well how precedented is that, and what can we read into it at this point . Well, what it showed us is that in our last national poll, 22. 5 of likely voters said that they were unfavorable to both Hillary Clinton and donald trump. So that speaks to the number that youre talking about, which is trump voters voting to prevent Hillary Clinton and vice versa. And so what youre looking at is those are the voters that will matter in november. Almost one in four voters right now are unfavorable to both. David, good to have you with me and that boston skyline behind you reminds us of our days when we would chat, especially the 08 election in boston. Good to chat with you again here. Likewise. Thank you. Donald trump keeps talking about the woman card. And this time going after Popular Democratic senator elizabeth war opiniren. What does he stand to gain from this . Senator wendy davis joins me for that conversation. Thats next. To folks out there whose diabetic nerve pain. Shoots and burns its way into your day, i hear you. To everyone with this pain that makes ordinary tasks extraordinarily painful, i hear you. Make sure your doctor hears you too i hear you because i was there when my dad suffered with diabetic nerve pain. If you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain in your feet or hands, dont suffer in silence step on up and ask your doctor about diabetic nerve pain. Tell em cedric sent you. Customer service d. Maam. 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Everything ive just said the republicans disagree with, and their presumptive nominee otherwise called their presumptuous nominee has made it really clear, he basically said wages are too high in america. And then, of course, he doesnt think much of equal pay for women because, of course, he doesnt think much of women, it turns out. Joining me now is clinton supporter and former state senator wendy davis of texas. Thank you so much for being with us this morning. We heard from secretary clinton, and she continues to say that shell call out trumps attack against her and on womens issues from this point on. But when you think about that, how hard can she fight back, and what are the boundaries that she needs to be aware of in considering that this may backfire . You know, i think she has a solid strategy Going Forward, understanding that he is incredibly unpopular with women. And as has been talked about on your show already, frances, the fact of the matter is that he is suffering tremendously with women voters, republican women voters being among those. And if he cant heal that wound, theres simply no way hes going to be able to succeed in a general election contest between him and Hillary Clinton. Shes going to keep reminding voters of the choice that they have. Someone who, like her, i think shes going to continue to talk about bringing the country together and continue to show him as a divider, not only someone who looks in a way thats unfavorable to women, but also latinos and other groups as well. But theres also a point there where these attacks continue to happen, and they may very well be especially leading up in the general election that she can be defensive about it. Also talking about her as the choice when it comes to policy and everything else. But theres got to be that point where shes got to say wait. Theres no longer the shield here that she has to be on the offensive somewhat, but how far will she go . Will she bring up his past . Even though shes insists shes not going to play down and dirty in the mud, but when will that line be crossed if these attacks continue . I think what were going to see with Hillary Clinton is what weve seen already. She is going to distinguish herself with her ideas, with what it is that shes going to do to bring this country together, with the fact that she recognizes weve got real challenges in wrages in cathis country, making sure that women have equal place in our communities across this country that they ought to, recognizing education, the ideas that shes going to bring forward to heal this country, and shell create a stark contrast with him whos going to stay in the mud because hes seen it as a successful strategy in the primary. Can we expect to see more attacks from surrogates, especially knowing bill clintons past and indiscretions have been the target for donald trump, will the former president hit back at mr. Trump for his own past behavior, and how risky is that . I dont expect to see bill clinton doing that. You may see that from Hillary Clintons surrogates. Certainly a surrogates role is to defend their candidate and to do it in a way that the candidate oftentimes cannot do themselves because theyre seen as being defensive by doing so. So i think youre going to definitely see, from the people who are out there on the campaign trail for hillary, the fact that theyre going to push back against some of this messaging from donald trump, most certainly. Its interesting also when you take into consideration the medias role in the Clinton Campaign and how donald trump sees it. Heres what he said at a rally in oregon on friday. Lets listen. They protect Hillary Clinton. You know what . They protect her. Theyre totally protective of her. So they are the worlds most dishonest people, and use much stronger language, but theres too many great women in the room. All right, they being the moo ed ya. Could that be in some sense a tactic, a scare tactic in not having the clintons talk about trumps past . I think really its his attempt at trying to push the media in a direction that he wants to see them go. And i think it definitely is him wanting to shield himself from some of the criticisms he feels will come his way and wanting to make sure that theyre leaped or levied heavily on hillary as well. Lets face it, though. No one has undergone the kind of scrutiny in the media and otherwise than Hillary Clinton. And for him to say somehow that she has received a light touch from the media is absolutely absurd. As weve seen in the past few days, Elizabeth Warren is sharing a little bit of that. Very quickly, i want to ask you, both sides are talking vps. Who do you see as far as standing next to Hillary Clinton, and could that person be you . Oh, it definitely will not be me. I think hillary is going to choose someone whos going to demonstrate the breadth and the depth of the vision and the ideas of the democratic party. And shes got a number of great choices to choose from there. It has been a lot of fun to watch Elizabeth Warren kind of picking this fight with donald trump and seeing her definitely making sure that any idea that bernie supporters might have that he ought to be their preferred candidate versus Hillary Clinton, shes the standard bearer for the more liberal side of the democratic party, and shes going to make sure and draw that contrast Going Forward. Wendy davis, former texas state senator, i appreciate your time being with us this morning. Thank you. Thank you so much. Kansas and parts of oklahoma are bracing for Severe Weather just a day after several tornadoes left a path of destruction in colorado. Look at this incredible video. Its from a small town called ray. Its about 12 miles from the nebraska border. Officials say that halfmilewide twister damaged several properties and knocking down dozens of electrical poles and injured at least five people. Thunderstorms are expected today in the plains states with the potential for tornadoes. And also new this morning, showing the level of destruction with scorched homes and virtually entire neighborhoods burned to the ground as a canadian wildfire continues to ravage parts of albertas soil sands town. Nbcs Miguel Almaguer is in wood buff, one of the hardesthit areas. Officials have been warning the situation could get worse. Even more so, were hearing two months without rain in some of these areas . Reporter yeah, frances, its all the fuel out here that this fire is feeding on. There are millions and millions of dead trees all across this region. And the fire is just ripping right through that. And of course, they face that triple threat today, those gusty winds, could be higher temperatures later on this afternoon, and of course, lower humidity. There have been some very, very light sprinkles in the air this morning. But thats simply not what firefighters are going to depend on here. They would need a heavy, steady rain to put this blaze out. As you mentioned, it will likely burn for months, as they say. This fire has already consumed some 1,600 structures. Most of those homes. The blaze taking a toll not only on the community but also on firefighters. Heres what one firefighter had to say. I dont consider myself a hero. But ive met more heroes in this experience than ive ever thought existed. Sorry. Our community has more firefighters and more emergency responders, police, everybody, that have given up their own homes, that are safe, their own families that are waiting for them to come up in the middle of this beast to help protect my home. Theyre heroes to me. Reporter no question that this firefight has certainly gotten personal. The firefighters, many of them that are on the front lines, live in this community. We have heard stories about firefighters leaving homes, leaving their own property to protect their neighbors property as their homes burn down. This fire is still on the move. Its still very aggressive. I can tell you out here while it is a bit chillier, it is still very windy out here, and that is what is helping fuel this blaze and fan it all across this region. Frances . That is that rain they so badly need. Miguel almaguer, thank you so much. Straight ahead, one of this weeks five key members that gives Bernie Sanders reason to hope for his political revolution. I hope that West Virginia, this tough state, that this tough state will go forward and help lead this country into the political revolution. Thank you all very much smetics. Smetics. The orders were rushing in. I could feel our deadlines racing towards us. 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Steve, good morning to you. As we get started this morning and talk about these numbers, you heard about the five numbers that matter this week. Im going to run them down and then you can tell us why thats so important. 58 is an important number. That should be a number that Hillary Clinton likes . Thats right. You know, we talked about donald trump upending the conventional wisdom and winning or seemingly winning the republican president ial nomination. And now people are questioning the conventional wisdom that Hillary Clinton has the advantage in a general election against donald trump. The problem is donald trump led the polls for the republican president ial nomination the whole way. He led 94 of the polls that were conducted from july 1 of last year through now. In the general election, thats not the case. Hillary clinton leads or is tied with donald trump in 58 of the 64 polls that have been conducted. Wow. Since last year, matching the two of them up against each other. Donald trump has only led six times. So right now if youre looking at data to inform you who starts this general election stretch with the edge, its undeniable that its Hillary Clinton. That important number stays at 58. Next number, 84 . Republican voters who say they wouldnt support trump or Hillary Clinton. It seems like a lot given throughout this campaign weve heard about Donald Trumps ceiling with republicans, republicans who are resistant to his campaign and are never trump people. So it seems like 84 is a. The problem for donald trump is that Hillary Clinton wins between 90 and 95 of democrats. And given the polarization in the country the fact democrats have had an edge in all of these president ial elections as far as there have been more democrats who turned out to vote than republicans, that is troubling for him. That means he needs to make up that gap somewhere else or unify all of the republicans, get them behind his campaign. And when Republican Voters are seeing paul ryan, speaker of the house, question whether he can support donald trump, that doesnt send the kind of signals that trump needs to bring all republicans together. All right. Next number here, 25. 1 million. Thats the number of voters in gop primaries and caucuses this year. Weve been reporting record numbers. Whats that number from last career . This comes from a study, a Republican Polling Firm here in washington. That is a 64 increase between 2012 and 2016 in turnout in republican primaries and caucuses. Thats huge. Donald trump claims hes bringing new voters into the fold, and that may be true, at least in the primary process. T least in the primary process. The question is can he do that in a general election. The data doesnt necessarily support that but its something to monitor moving forward. Quickly the next one, 72 , the share of Bernie Sanders voters below the age of 30. What does it mean for the democratic contest, especially with the delegate math in place . Well, it doesnt mean much other than Bernie Sanders can continue to campaign, can take his campaign to california all the way through june 7th but it doesnt change the fact that Hillary Clinton will almost certainly beat Bernie Sanders among pledged delegates and given her overwhelming support among superdelegates, she is almost certainly going to be the democratic nominee, barring any kind of huge change. Very quickly, we can squeeze in 49 cents. Theres a new study out from two professors that find republican candidates are spending more money on Television Advertising than democrats because their consulting firms are taking more money. This is an interesting study. But what is important here to watch is whether or not Hillary Clinton or donald trump has the edge in tv advertising at the end. Barack obama did not necessarily outspend mitt romney at the end in tv advertising, but he got a better rate on his ads and more voters saw his ads than mitt romneys ads. Can Hillary Clintons Campaign Take advantage of some of these structural things. Steven shepard, thank you for the breakdown in the numbers. Appreciate it. Its becoming even less affordable. Coming up, obamacare premiums are expected to soar and the out of pocket expenses could make some patients feel even worse. About to arrive. And with her, a flood of potential patients. A deluge of digital records. Xrays, mris. All on account. Of penelope. But with the help of at t, and a network that scales up and down ondemand, this hospital c be ready. Giving them the agility to be flexible reliable. Because no one knows like at t. Try phillips fiber good gummies plus energy support. Theres a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. 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What theyre finding is the people signing up are sicker and use more health care than they expected so they have been talking about how a lot in 2017 they think theyre going to have to raise rates to cover those higher medical bills that they have been paying. So if i sign up for obamacare, im now hearing that, oh, boy, i may have to pay more around the corner here but you have the Obama Administration whos pushing back saying that tax credits reduce the cost of coverage for the vast majority of people. So what is the breakdown here . Where is the truth . Its definitely true that these tax credits, they cap middle and low income peoples contribution to their premiums so those people dont have to worry as much, although if they want to buy some of the really kind of better really comprehensive plans, that their tax credits wont cover, then they might be facing a bit of financial strain. And if you are someone buying coverage on the marketplace without a government subsidy, you earn too much, thats someone whos really going to feel those premium increases pretty hard. Were talking about opening its doors in november when it comes to healthcare. Gov so you have people considering that and hearing about these increases and theyre hesitant down the road possibly. What will they see when it comes to those who are interested in signing up . They might see slightly higher prices than they expected. One thing we do expect consumers to do is theyll shop around. If their premium goes up, they might look at a different insurance carrier or a plan with a higher deductible to get that premium down. So we do expect a decent amount of shopping. But as you and i know, its often quite challenging to switch insurers so shopping is not always the most seamless experience in health care. Okay, sarah, those changes coming in november. Thank you so much for your time. Thank you. 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