A military and political analyst. All right, crosswalk rules and effect. That means you can jump any time you want and i always appreciate it. Okay, i want to start with andre in washington state. Andre, can you, can you clear up a misunderstanding . I keep hearing about them. I thought the russia had no more ammunition, didnt have any missiles. They were relying upon china to talk to re replenish stocks and they need a rainy and drones. And then all of a sudden yesterday and today happened. Can you explain this to me on today . On 1st its merits you because they need, from all this marriage, you russians are back work, you know, really good people who oversee are going to be destroyed because of the lack of mcdonalds and i faults. And secondly, as i restated and its in my books, its everywhere i write about it for years as a home is the fact that they dont study the country as our state of data being military in our economically. What have you, what are the aspect of that state . Actually, they simply dont know. Those who know those gone all day. I locked out a day, you book and thats why we have this issue. One big existence. Im kind of the informational bubble echo chamber. And thats what it is, i mean, no matter how you try reasonably those people who can reason, but they dont understand the limit they go to tom tom that because this is a big surprise, you know, the, you know, we always have to point out in this program is that when you have a bad narrative, you get bad results. Ok, and this is result of this of this narrative. The, the interesting question is going to be is i will care with the backing of the us continue with the sabotage events like the nord stream. I like the crimean bridge because you now they know what the reaction of the russians. Theres going to be the question i want to ask all of you before the program is over. Why didnt this happen or after february 24th, but maybe thats a moot point. Tom, go ahead. Well, when i say peters that theyve opened up a can of worms, that they are, that now is, is very dangerous right now. Civilian infrastructure in International Waters is open is fair game theyve gotten, i think they, ill be honest with you. I think the u. S. I think its more the brits and the polls than it is the u. S. Is probably a mixture of all of them with the u. S. Having fossil to my ability or at least factions within the us have a possible deniability where were behind all the stuff. And like to me its very clear that they want the war. They want to an a wider war, but not sure on what terms they want that wider, where they just want to be able to get to eat. And the russians to over react to whatever provocation, you know, they keep punching the rushes in the face. And they keep hoping that the russians as they are i us enough. And were just going to live here, which then gives us the, the, the west gives them the moral high ground to say, ok, now its time to take a rush. Well, and, but tom, that, thats, that works under the assumption that, you know, ive been playing with this, whos got the time and whos got the clocks. Oh, and again, they keep showing that the russians have both jeremy, i mean, its really quite remarkable. Yeah. Okay. Maybe the brits and maybe the poles, of course the americans know about it. But isnt it kind of pathetic when you think about it . Is it okay . Lets do another sabotage event, but its not the u. K. That sabotage. Its not poland, its sabotage. Its not the you, its ukraine. I mean, with these kind of friends, ukraine is going to run out of people and land. Very, very quickly. Jeremy jump in. Well, yeah, i think ultimately ukraine and buying their own destruction. And you know, they, you know, they have carried out massive atrocities and terrorist activities. Car bombings within russia. Busy i think Us Intelligence admitted that ukraine was behind us. Somehow theyre able to sustain some kind of moral high ground. Its one thing that i like to see people waving ukrainian flags and have the cranium flag in their house when its a. Busy government that was voted one of the most corrupt in europe is not the world that carries a brazen terrorist activities. And that basically sold as interest as a country to these foreign powers who have a very pernicious agenda playing a very dangerous game as the other 2 guess, pointed out, because it has nothing to do with ukraine and all has to do about somehow degrading russias power humiliating and miss, we have seen this playbook for 30 years since the end of the cold war is the special military operation in play. Is it special military operation . Plus, i mean its very clear to me because we have the partial mobilization how and then we had these barrage of attacks over the course of 2 days. Its the same military strategy and play. Go ahead. Yeah. Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Dont forget that the planning goals nor jobs online. You have to develop the decision 311 little reparations, and, or if your forwarding or object area, or the combined, and especially United States or gotten more and more ration birthday there. And the russians have to basically dial 211. 00 and after talk with the partial waiver, as you do, the job strapped a job which got on for the last 48 hours and it will continue. So once you have your domain name from and im a nation, its relatively easy if you look at it from the point of view of the nation. All this bay dont be separated from back to me. Your political body to call over off of the day is basically for all, you know, hes been wrong from your region. The country now mass pulled. You are all those ways. Its working just euro full block. So its not just new address, why would people get a larger your political issue and this is actually easier goodwill there you have to go while he is and will be defeated, which is scaffolding as being or i should walk up, you know, but so its nothing that russia has enough views and still basic, regular, severe, you know, its how, when the special military operation was announced, the, the 2 goals were denot vacation in the mid demilitarization. I think as a result of the last couple of days, we couldnt throw in di electric as ation as well. I mean, basically turning out the lights, which it showed to be quite easy to do at very low cost and low cost in lives as well. Tom, yeah, and, and this is the further what andre was saying, i agree. And that this is an economic or as much as is a military war. And its very clear that its, its a political war as well. And ive been saying to be any of this that its always was meant to be a, a war of attrition on both sides and that their shock and all on on both sides of the. So we had little shocking off in the russians yesterday with a massive missile attack. We had shocking off in the americans and europeans with sanctions attacks back february, march. And now the question is, whos you know, whose political will, as andrea would pointed out, whose political will at home, whose Political Support at home is gonna run out 1st is are going to be the west source is going to be prudent. My bet is that its going to be the west. I agree with that terry logical because jeremy mean, um, this is not of any real Strategic Value to the United States, even to even to the western europe. I mean, but it is russias back yard or front porch whenever you want to put it. It is of Great National importance that are defense and so thats why i think that they would have much longer resolved. And i think over the last 2 days weve seen thats the most important word that comes in my mind is resolved this thing. So this phase started on the 24th of february and it will be continued till completion. Jeremy, really, and i think you also look at the Economic Situation in europe. I mean, the sabotage and stream pipeline adversely affects europe with the skyrocketing gas prices and heating crisis, heading into the winter and tearing economic conditions. I think youre going to see, you know, potential unrest in europe and already there, i think divisions, you know, we see that in germany. Gerhard schroeder, been strongly against a lot of the german policies, more toward cooperation with russia and against the war. So yeah, i think were already seeing a break in europe, especially related to the tearing or turing Economic Situation. And its really not in the interest of the public whether in europe or the United States. Where is the russias fighting a life or death struggle and has tangible security interest. Busy so i think the publics are going to wake up soon and have been so much deception in western governments about this conflict that just like a rack. I mean, were just waiting for the bubble burst and more people to acknowledge the hollow, initial of deception at play, you know, under, if its so curious who are watching politicians in europe react to all whats going on. I mean, we had a French Energy official coming out and saying the americans, we look at, theyre charging us for, for liquid, for natural gas, you know, but theyre not talking about capping american energy, but, but only russian. And then you have german officials coming up. Were facing d v industrialization, but theyre all still in lock step, like zombies with this policy, its been saying, watching it. Go ahead tom. Im sorry, im sorry andre andre, go ahead. Go ahead and re. Well, its pretty simple. Thats what people doing on the spam. Russia has written europe off. Europe is locked in, you more important for ashley and complete a garage door asia will continue. And its actually speaking up to base as well see it. So in this particular case, europe, once a meeting, as we speak, so, so be it. And again, is that right . You stayed, or people who were planning based. And as usual game is called later because a real economy and certainly not competent. You should a war for you get all of our broker operational planning when your basic or whole career and or what 30. Yes, you like them back or you that there is all together, some guy, the insurgency in the samples, where they walk and they know how to deal with something which america you look at, for example, in college, are since actually since korea. And he will dam carriers and i know, you know, i know that i had to jump in here. Gentlemen, were going to go to what you are breaking up and i shall break. Well continue our discussion on flipping the scripts thing. Ah, ah, look forward to talking to you all. That technology should work for people. A robot must obey the orders given by human beings, except where such order to conflict with the 1st law. And just in case we should be very careful about our personal intelligence at the point, obviously is to place trust rather than fear a with artificial intelligence. Real, somebody with protective own existence, with who, oh, a russian state. Little never. Ive side us on the north lansky davis with within the 50 babel been okay, so mine is too far from speaking with. We will fan in the european union, the kremlin media machine. The state arent russia today, and ortiz spoke neck, given our video agency, roughly all band on youtube and pinterest with me. Ah, ah ah, welcome back to cross like where all things are considered. Im peter labelle, to remind you were discussing, flipping the script. Ah, lets go back to tom in north florida. Come in, one of the things i find very disturbing. I mean, after the, the, a, a, a barrage of a, of the last couple of days biden was on the phone with zalinski. No surprise. Um, and you know, a continuing promising support in every way, shape or form. Is that an issue of moral hazard . I mean, theres a lensky gang has every reason to keep this going on as long as possible. Ok, not for the sake of the ukrainian people or whatever will at be and become a ukraine, but for their own personal gains and goals. I mean, if you got the swift numbers, you know, when they send the money, i mean, that is something, you know, thats a once in a lifetime gig and how many people would walk away from it. Considering that the zelinski government is showing up a patently, very little interest in the lives of their own soldiers in the field. Go ahead tom i i, i would, would. Yeah, that is a very important i think the, this is, theres a bigger thing here than that. And that is that, that the, the by the ministration is to, is, is, is continuing this because that has been policy. This book, this binders been on the shelf to turn ukraine into a war zone to bleed the russians white. This has been up on the shelf at Rand Corporation or were for true 20 or 30 years. I mean, this has been in the are conservatives, drain a suit it to get this. You are never. And if you will get all by disastrous purity into this like this, her to council there all the, the classic, you know, hawks of you, the hawkish of the hot. So this isnt gonna end until they finally get the message that its either you go nuclear, you go home and i want i and as far zalinski concerned, you know, he was placed in this position to do exactly that by other people. And you know, no different than our civil bond, or i know different the joe biden or anybody else. So, you know, the, the worst part about this is that the people who are doing this, its all puppet shop in and where all the ones hot crossfire, especially the ukranian people, which the for them. Finally this war became really real. And its unfortunate a jeremy, one of the things i think that people miss all the pundits tree and whatnot is that the, itll be over. This will be over number one, when the russians decide its over. And number 2 and the russians have decided that better security interests have been met. Say we have to go all the way back to december 17th, which is ancient history for most people on cable and in the broad sheets. But it was laid out very clearly what russia expected and in, and then we had the, the, the, the, the phase of the operation with this has been going on for 8 years now, not just our 8 months. And russia will say, because they dont, nobody in the west wants to negotiate. Ok, they made that decision, burrell made that decision. And so when russia will say, well, were done because we have our security interest have been met. Nobody in the west seems to be thinking in those terms. Go ahead, jeremy bel, yeah, i think tom, but clearly that the neo conservatives want to bleed the russians. And they have this dream that theyve been dreaming up for a long time. So they want this to go on indefinitely and theyre going to continue arming the ukrainians. And theyll, even if its over, theyre going to carry out low intensity warfare of some kind and continued to try and probably, you know, attack or. Busy sabotaged Eastern Ukraine or even territories, even if theyre incorporated into russia, i mean, we see what theyre doing out crimea and the one bridge. So i dont know this could gone for, for a long, long time, given those interests. Tom pointed to yeah, but i mean on that i like think about what jeremy just said theyre, i mean theyre just a certain number of ukrainians. Ok. Theres a certain number amount of infrastructure. I mean, if they want to continue this on, i suppose you know, the actual have to respond to it, but i mean, this is diminishing returns, ok, diminished. And at one point, and if the west, the collective west wants to continue doing this, they also will be considered an official co belligerent. And thats when we go down the, the path of, of a true destruction for everyone involved. Go ahead, andre. Well, when you have to also give their cognizant skill the fact that while you all songs are very hawkish and basically what i want it is, there are many stations of bias nutrition that results for me that for us you do not forget that a lot of things which russia is doing right now. Theyre very much of dined tool for the need trumps or is already strong car and so to speak in the u. S. Policy with for example, republicans, many of them im not talking about the right such needs are grandma, you know, cotton by many people dont want to do this anymore. So if we are cause why in all of themselves, they cannot build this. They need to have the access to the of ours of power, but the wine is United States as long as strong combined west is more strongly agree on for a new day. It is military and trophy. Is there stream, or there was actually despite money as a ha, pointing this out actually was diminish, not increasing because United States simply has nothing more to deal, so to speak. And it will continue. Yes. Is diminishing return and in day and its opera will decide when a condition she wants to be an issue. And im going to make a statement all 3 days are long about unconditional for generation. Well walked differently, the claims honor. Tom, it met, we are, and we heard the andre mentioned the mid terms here. I mean, it seems to me such a no brainer. I mean, this is bidens war because it was something that, you know, the obama people started. And obama people, im, the biting people have continued. This is a no brainer to say, this is bidens war. Its very, very expensive. Were getting negative returns here. But the, the, it still remains very bipartisan on an elite level. But if you further you go down most, you know, j d van to saying, you know, i dont care about ukraine. I lot of people feel that way in the United States. A lot of people feel that way. Ok, i mean if, if a conservative a cause i hate the g o p. But if conservatives, i want to make a statement here and say this is not our wor, its a we has nothing to do with us. We dont gain anything. We only lose thing and its the arms dealers to do best. Whats wrong with that . Because thats a strategy. Go ahead tom. Its some, its, its part of the strategy. At this point the, the democrats are on autopilot. They understand that theyre there. Theyre acting like a party that they know theyre going to lose. The midterm is desperately. If you want my, my scariest prediction, its that theyre now really feeling the heat of all of their mistakes while since by this taken office. And again, it goes back to the point i made earlier that someone desperately wants this war escalated in order to upset in order to change fundamentally the entire apple cart of the, the west. And im, and what i mean by that is were headed towards a financial crisis where also at the same time, they need a war to cover their insolvency and their political losses. Good point. And so the russians wont give it to the russians. Keep responding for, in effect, proportionally by not expanding this war in any way, be on their boards and continuing to wait and to a fit and causing that, the crazies, i think in for a and m, i 62, and to continue to intensify the number, the the, the, the, the punches on the mouth that theyre willing to give the russians in order to try and force put in to do something he doesnt want to do. And very patiently saying, no, were just not going to give you the where you want. And hes, i think, holding off until after the midterm elections because it would be, it would be dumb for him to do that. Given whats going to have given the, the political situation. You can read the polls in the United States, that there is no consensus for war with ukraine, but if you gives us a reason for it, right . A cause a spell i then the, the whole game Board Changes is clearly thats the strategy right now by the ministration, whitehall, brussels, and everybody in jeremy. Its so short sighted because andres already pointed out our program is that i see a real breach, a breach that will not be mended with russia in europe. Its is over that the peter, the great dream of working with europe is finally the 300 year journey is finally come to an end because its just one big headache. Okay. You sign agreements, you dont honor them. You know, men, yes, we agree and all of this, you know, we want the pipeline north stream and then, you know, one of your friends blows it up. Ok. What these people are, a pain in the neck. Ok. And without cheap, wretched energy, their productivity is worthless. Why do you want to deal with these people, jeremy . Go ahead. I mean, i think were seeing a major power shift gets in earlier point about this kind of back for further on the worse, because yeah, russia is 40 very strong blog with ease with china. And a lot of countries are joining around. Theres now involved with this lions, theyre making economic deals. And you know, china, one belt, one Road Initiative is really helped a lot of countries. So were seeing in the east is growing much stronger. And this is kind of the nightmare of the neo conservatives in any ways. Busy the senior china allies with russia, its becoming a very strong alliance. And the power really is shifting in their directions because of the. Busy follies of us and western policies over generations now and self destructive nature of those policy. So i think the world is starting to look a lot different. Yeah, its absolutely folly andre, you know, the way western media and pundents always like to describe the rushes isolated and it has no friends. And, you know, its really interesting on the rest of the world sees this. They see the following. Russia is taking on entire collective west and its not losing. And it, it is most likely, very likely, im sure it will when russia took on the entire collector. But the entire post colonial power is and you know what, this, the global south is in all. And the chinese are watching very, very carefully. All right, you are all in my for a few years ago. And im writing their small subset of 14 and early in talking to june, i wrote that United States getting in the wall in your brain, or the war is sustained. The defeat dont reduce down the last, thats what will be the shape of barbara right now. Already can see that theres so much greed that its difficult to explain or elaborate for several hours on there, but it is clear there, yes, world all this or specter power and russia been on the power and result. And thats what people see, including those ones. This will gold, gold pictures all the hard and i will get your wiring for their old shape. Roger. And thats their civil most people except alex, its all the visuals and they can see. Yeah, well they just thing is the west. Once the export woke as him, but russia gives an example of, of power and red and resolute determination. Right . Gentlemen, thats all the time we have one is good. Thank my guess in north florida, tulsa, and in washington state. And i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. See you next time. Remember the news . Oh, when i was showing wrong, when i was just a shave out disdain. Because the african and engagement equals the trail. When so many find themselves will the more we choose to look for Common Ground . Who is the aggressor today . Im authorizing the additional strong sanctions today. Russia is the country with the most sanctions imposed against it. A number thats constantly growing. I think you chose a bill in your senior, mostly mine, or wish you were banding all imports of russian oil and gas news. I know they plenty of with the letter from, you know, were going to go with joe biden, imposing these sanctions on russia. 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