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Terminology as a dangerous mixture of megalomania, with an inferiority complex, who to go to the by the fun position on what led to the collapse of the agreement of last year. And course, the impossibility of continuing that part of these agreements was stated by the Russian Foreign ministry we had blown to you, and on that day to shape, as well as all 4 and partners about this for many months. This goes to demonstrate the inability to fulfill the parts of the agreement. This is another manifestation of the chronic incompetence of the collective west. And its heavy to of always trying to play the same game. This will not happen yet. They need to understand this. As for mining the ports, they will invent any story so that gullible read is and view as and listen as consume and perceive all based on critically. This is done to continue forming the image of russia as an enemy. If we oppose this with a confidence costs, according to verify position from the points of view, including from a legal point who appear to go to special. As it gets sticky is, is there is a problem with logistics as well as ship insurance. And recently, insurance rates have increased many times already were not able to make payments for the exports that was suppose to be carried out within the framework of a comprehensive agreement on the black sea initiative. We will look for alternative forms. I assure you that opposition in terms of helping those in need is radically different from the salvation and so contemptuously arent good to that. Oh, nice position of the European Union itself, which in many respects on ukrainian impuls probably restrained, to some extent, the inflation we spiral in terms of its own food prices. I dont want to delve into the economic aspects of the list, but the political aspect boils down to the fact that we will help those in need. And we will find ways to do it with grain and fertilizers. And we will not be headed in this regard. By the schemes of our opponents, but to move with a lot of things have to be together, right . So, so the fulls being t of energy and this is from the g 20 google will develop economies critical global. And then g times is im the move to load color and feed to all set to dominate the tools indian hosting the event with 5 methods or under moody recording a welcoming message to do the cool job. So starting with the role of the brain can be complete without energy. We are moving on over to climate coming comments in the as shown later in government action, our ad part is to bladder flooding. Lose you lose, you leant agree, table and sustainable. And thatd be part of our p n o g is one of the key priority eras underlined under india, z 20 presidency to be in the southwest and stage of a wall problem. And the cell is energy windows, stalls from the g 20 you are collecting, delivery, teen on sustainable energy. Ill russian forest. Every Energy Minister also is joining while we do a one from 6 inches. Seeing the we have 100. 00 delegates york. We also have special invitees. As well as International Agencies who are going to be deliberating on a road map, full seating and sustainable energy. Extremely important in the back tool of the world. The see x 3. Why the thousands . 07 countries always will suffering from extreme sheet waves and sign to sub pointing out that bought ingles, fossil fuels is in made your phone computer here. And therefore, this saw a ministerial meeting on the g 20 under in the us presidency, which is taking crease, is a very, very in fulton twan the also towards the end or for the meet to the there is a joint community all the outcome which is expected but again, a deep sleep being given to the fact that stuff we seen in the finance ministers need in the form and assume need to come to a consensus because over you clean for a has become a sticking point. And also now x plus the pointing dos and thats uh, being deals challenges are we do find the india in fast um, a wanting to west and uh its allies, the us and its allies, to tune down it screeches into a russia. Its becoming more challenging now. Do you want to run up to that big need or summit which will be hosted by mr. Moore the, on the 9th and 10th of september. Lets go back to our main story now while were talking about the, the sundays that happened on the border, just to give you a reminder of this close to uh, lets go live to rough name. I did 7 for the job and 70 constitution opposition. Group off, thanks a lot for joining us now. Was when it assumed me out. So could i guess looking into the decisions instead of the cluster munitions to q. We now seeing them in use. Why our reason why these warnings about these weapons being ignored, ralph to well, i think its 1st of all, its not the 1st time of course that the United States and the populace are engaging and such to 1st times in the 1960s in come bode yeah. I didnt vietnam and uh, nails and of course also during the nature war against job because theyve got the so called cost of a war. They dropped 1007. Im not 65. 00 plus the bombs which until today cause serious harm to civilians because these um, split them to about 300000. 00 bump that stopped us spread around and out. Fountain studios and private properties. And people may only detect that late. Tell them maybe years later when they, they cross so because that to get killed by that or lose more elect. I mean this is how bad these things are and thats why it is clear. They are used against civilians and not primarily against soldiers in the back of it. Well, if you know leukemia down as soon as the cause is an outrage in the us, i mean, if you think this death will swap us similar respond son would draw attention to the use of these weapons. Well, i wish i can hope here to raise this vandals again, because the last of the life for us to have left to arrest is tragic. And hes not the 1st one, it probably will not be the last one. Who as a journalist colleague, has to be a warrant. I mean, this is terrible and my, my thoughts of it to his family and his colleagues and friends. But unfortunately, yes, truth is always the 1st victim in the conflict. That is a famous saying, but i must say it is not only just killed it is being assessed to me. So i think yes, journalists, many of hundreds, every year of our profession killed and we have to raise disadvantages again. And i try to help you by doing that to the best of yeah, several russian journalists have been actually the subject of assassination posts. Im to advertise now with this that the class session does indicate a pass and dipping. Well yes, of course they did try to tell arise those to bring about truce and im seeing a certain pattern here that especially the ukrainians are now trying eagerly to a tech people who could report on what they are actually doing. And i must say, i as a drum and citizen, i am absolutely disgusted by the German Federal president form a foreign minister. Francois to stein meyer, who said on the 9th of july, that one should not stop the us from sending these cluster munitions to ukraine. They obviously have to use drum and territory for that. And thats alone raises our question again. How supper room of the like, can we not stop us from sending such evil arms into a conflict that is in our neighborhood . Indeed very well. So thats the time i know the gentleman is talking to you in constitutional design group. The so ralph t 9, my was always a fight as those is i thank you for your time. Thank you very much. That was the middle east. I agree. Crowds have ports, the swedish flag in there on inputs as of a decision by so go to allow the kron or a copy of the crew to be. But its an, as an event and for it to take by this little details. His odds, easiest of july, the repeated acts of sacrilege against as well. Im solely because the wrong has opened the floodgates. So all theory, and now its raised by millions of lessons across the world. Well, here are intent was angry. Purchasers gathered outside the Swedish Embassy on friday to vendor anger. Thursdays state authorized learning of a copy of the hold of a sweet. And they said that this scandalous has heard the feelings of the sentiments of more than 2000000000 most comes across the world. Well, this was the 2nd time in less than a month that a copy of the holy book of her loan has been burnt in sweden visa and was blind by started one mamma, car, 37 year old. It warranty in a grant and start home. And in sweden, the who also burned several pages of the holy book back on july 28th. Not image of the approval of the sweetest refer it is the counter dogs of the action of the controversial act of it. The protection is for protection by the swedish course, and this was, this is why most lives, any one is already rated by the swedish authorities support for this extreme is actually against his moms duties, calling it a way to promote his level of your across the world. On thursday, your on summit of this swedish ambassador over what is called profanity, i guess as well im excited is Foreign Ministry spokesman also cannot e last down to start home for allowing such provocative actions to take ways and urge stockholm to promptly put an end to the blasphemy of course. Well, um, as we didnt justifies its green light for all the desecration of the holy book up the wrong under the close of freedom of expression. These people call it a blazing violation of religious freedom, so they hold that vis. Riley will send and relate the voices of more than 2000000000 most comes across the world to demand an immediate and too sweet as is, lama fall back actions, i guess most times but lets take a guess on this and go live now to mohammed will i photo and he is a director general, the divide Public Policy research center. So thank you so much for joining us here at the see now, many arab muslim countries plus the, the u i. E have condemned and objected to the swedish authorities because decision to authorize and give it authorization to the court on what do you make of this . All we looking on a serious, religious or Serious Problems between perhaps Eastern Europe idol European Countries and islamic countries. Thank you very much. I think the, what were seeing is an attempt to prevent just that all of these attempts, including the attempt of the Iraqi Government, a photo to deploy method. A dentist has been used to express this may at this lack of distinction between what seems to be the them of speech, but actually is free to treat them to hate. Uh, is it then to, to just do that to vent . Im much lots of reaction similar to what weve seen. And in fact, youre saying this to prevent an escalated action, but losing troubles in iraq. Weve seen flag burning this escalate even further or not. Ive been instructed in, in sweden, that theyve been stopped in that i can, it happened several times. This is not the 1st time that this has happened. The latest was it a month ago. So weve seen a, you know, people trying to express that dismay. But now it says its connected with the masses of gathering. And in my view, the Iraqi Government is trying to do research to prevent this from escalating even assets of this is possibly why that reaction, including announcing the invested displacements invest that presented in carpet is, is one of those elements. But in reality, none of the use of the embassy was all of them has been a safety city, bathroom. Uh, but uh, i think things could escalate. Youve already seen something similar to that is happening in denver. And there is no, uh the, the, uh, stopping to that type of practice in this, the lowest that prevents it to the speech. I think this is a symptom rather than an actual event. What were seeing is a major flash between what is the value of the individual versus the value of the whole society. So youre saying this is more of a, for the individuals rights to what they believe in freedom of speech. Not a big a while, you say this is a hate crime, but all the life for you to see the swedish government change the stones, if you like, or the swedish government. When at the system point, well have to find out what is actually harming the National Security. And this, for the speech of hatred is not going to stop by systems. They can easily go to other religions, and i dont think this is either good for the swedish government for the governments of the country is next to it. But also in the, in countries where there is majority of different trees, it starts with wisdoms. It could go to jewels and its a good window, isnt. There is no stopping of that moment. Let me ask you have, so let me sorry of the, of script to some of my guess i of into the before have said that this could be a is ray the box or a oh sweet. Yeah. Is there any fuel, hate fluid to push a sweet and to do some thoughts, things just to be presented publication, to iran and iraq . What are your thoughts on that . I dont think so. I think this provokes organisms, and i dont think good news would be more provoke, so she is or vice versa. And i think weve already seen attempts to try and, and what was that question . What if i wanted to, to the date that the tool that weve seen thats happening. And i think this is a very dangerous bellas to try and keep between allowing people to do what they want to do. Regardless, if its a whim, regardless if its something thats what of the society and the bodies of government in the country is saying that is, that is what we stop step in, nor do we do not stuff. And i dont think this is, this is directed to us in person. Right . So mohammed about how to environmental general, all the do believe Public Policy lisa, is that so thank you so much for joining us here at to put it over to you. Thanks again. Thank you. Back to well breaking. If it was 3 people who just had 3 people are hospitalized and schools of people have been reported by the school. The, if you remember the top of the hour, we talked about it, the casualties kind of called mazda of the pilot bus of the seasons. The Shopping Center here in moscow. And other 20 people remain trapped in the building with the shut down of electricity. As and when details come in and we will of course, bring you up to date. Well know some of this busy news. Our bulletin, if you like, we will be back in just over 30 minutes at the top of the i with moist National News to check out on see dot com will give me everything up to date that i will see you soon. I the the masters on see and welcome back to going underground will go single, around the world from do by and the way this week and the nature of proxy war and ukraines, they just escalation must go. Finally asked its temporary black sea green deal, which allowed exports of grain from ukraine. This came after tara jack on the crimea bridge when they do a nation. Naval drones will likely use to blow it up. Sound familiar to the legend bite and blowing up in the north stream pipeline that us soldiers who says the war and ukraine needs to a now, with a diplomatic solution, is for me, Us Army Officer of 30 years and full of a chief of staff to president George W Bush is us secretary of state colin powell, the man whos 20 o 3 you and speech helped capitalize the us invasion of iraq and soldier is retired colonel Laurie Wilkerson who joins me now from fullest judge in virginia. Thank you so much kind of coming back on the show. So the 20 or 3 warning rob was uh, you know, w, m, d, w, and the, this, this one really is more and ukraine really is about w m d, y of you and 14 of the signed a letter in the New York Times calling on people to understand the war through rushes eyes for all of us who signed the letter and many more who for some reason or other didnt want to actually be so public agreed that this is probably as dangerous a situation as weve been confronted in a long time with regard to Nuclear Weapons, probably as dangerous as 1962 in cuba or 1961 in berlin. So it was time for a statement to be made and we found a gentleman to back us. Its very expensive to do that, isnt the New York Times. And we put it in or why the New York Times actually, i mean its a, ill give a change. Its policy at the tory leo since, you know, because it suddenly started to, at least it was one all fed. Uh, that seemed to show some descent from the ruling class line. Why did you choose the New York Times . Well, one reason i chose it, i recommended it. Not that my view was paramount. It is because it was the war monger with regard to the rapport which was a disaster is still a disaster. And we saw the New York Times, again being a war longer advocating and all manner of the what you might call american war mongering, period, london, berlin, everyones war mongering all the time. And so thats the best place to but what isnt the mouthpiece of the war . And so thats why we put it there, at least thats why i wanted this one key feature that being the threat of a new to us strikes. I mean, im not going to accuse you here, but you know, that kind of, um, so might say faith join list, have bbc, cnn. The usual suspects that to, that, that war in iraq below. And ive kind of sounds serial libya they, they probably say, you know what youre doing in that letter. Its caving in to put in new to your back. Now. Not at all. As a matter of fact, i have been assured in the last month by some of the highest authorities for moscow that paid him would not use a nuclear weapon. Strangely enough, i happened to believe them. Um they are reputable people there people that colin powell trusted when he was sector of state. And i havent a blog. I mean he dressed it too many people go on file. Yeah, thats true. In this regard though, i think the statement is a valid statement of my fear is not that russian. Im only using a, grew up and it says some other party and i included washington in that were using the weapon, so thats my figure not rusher. I dont think russia is at a point or will be at a point i did meet you after the 24 february invasion. I thought the prospects were pretty, pretty good because our watch the russians bogged down so badly that i thought we were making a big substantial for them. I no longer think that. I think the situation now made so by us and by ukraine is clearly on russian side. I think all she has to do is hold out in a defensive posture. Shes presently in, and ukraine will bleed itself to death on that defensive foster. So i dont think theres a reason for 13 to use Nuclear Weapons now. A, well, thats quite shocking that the United States might want to, but your view does concur ironically with the drunken itd be the you and you start Us National Security council. The junk of use, and there was absolutely no indications of them using it. Obviously its a, its terrible for all the families of the debris, families of those who have died in this conflict so far. But uh, why do you being critical of hence the blinking, the former um, uh, west exec military contract to consult and secretary is dave. He has achieved one more aim for washington, has indeed in western europe has become much more than ever like just another state of the usa and his family and the group of washington power. You just stated the reason why this cannot persist in 1989. And one of your 1st drawing colin powell, he mused in his Office One Day to may, a freshly captured lieutenant colonel. So i was about to challenge him. He said, you know, larry, the leaders are all going meet there on coal. I satcher major. Theyre all going. The people wish to see their feet in world war 2 are going soon. There will be leaders in your who dont remember the war as a war soon there will be leaders in europe who will want to act on their own. That is going to happen and is going to happen speedily. And for with, with this war going on much longer, i think were going to see nato falling apart rather than becoming even more more unified. As far as dividing, insinuated, insinuated, hell, he stated it multiple times and boom is. So i think were looking at the dissolution of nato over time because these leaders are going to go. These leaders are american chosen leaders and made a respect, particularly the secretary general of nato. When these people go, there are going to be a new crop of leaders. Youre seeing coles right now. Even in germany, they show 5560 percent of the people are not happy with their present politicians policies, and that includes ukraine. So as time goes by and i dont think its going to be much time, maybe 12 to 15 months, were going to see nato began to fall. Par, not be more more unified, particularly if we dont step in and stop this conflict as well. Today, the germany is in recession, that has been civil unrest, right . Of course frauds in switzerland, many other countries. But if a russia has definitely said it would respond to any nuclear provocation. And as you say, if the United States would you initiate one, you dont think that the National Security advisor, jake sullivan, the suggest, a blinking of victoria newland. You dont think they care about their own families when they do this because ill be there around hollywood films. About the war that should remind them of the consequences and reality of what its like to be in the war. And the fact that right, know when is of even a conventional loan, a nuclear one, you know, one of those films is dominating the airwaves over here. Right now, well very today you go hoping im or i am become dead. Quoting the indian religious figure. I and im not so sure that thats a proper characterization of the present situation because i think what were looking at now is increasingly, and ive just reviewed the joint publications, which are the publications for the american military, with the guard operations on Nuclear Weapons. And what ive found is a cavalier attitude toward those weapons. That is to say, theyre just bigger weapons. Im encouraged by the fact that in all of the my review there is the state. But quote, the president of the United States is the only one with the authority to use Nuclear Weapons on quote, that somewhat reassuring, until you think about the president s weve had of late. And then its not so reassuring. But i say that because i think were coming to a time again, look at what weve done. We have an old or withdrawn from unilaterally or just flat cancel every Nuclear Arms Control agreement painfully achieved during the cold war. From the abm treaty, which my president George W Bush abrogated without a fairly well all the way to open skies. And now finally, start because student is not about to come back to start after ukraine. So we have no arms control. We have a military this talking about Nuclear Weapons as low the battlefield utility developing doctrine for their use and so forth. The russians are doing the same thing. Were looking at a possibility of getting into some kind of tactical use of Nuclear Weapons. That with the, shall we say, customize them, make some, actually something that we use on the battlefield. This disaster for the environment, for people to hire for everything were talking about that we want to stop with the crime war is the primary example right now, killing people, displacing people knocking them out of their homes. We cant make this normal activity, and yet im seeing it becoming that in doctrine and doctrine also leads action. Or is it that what gives confidence to blinking state department and the other people in control there in, in washington . Is it what gives them confidence there . Uh, intelligence surfaces, do they have good spies in moscow . Letting them know, look, this is the right policy. Well have succeeding year. I know. President s not least the, the one use of the we have. Well, i mean, we all know what happened to the intelligence that gotten through to him. And what happened in iraq is it that they have good spies, exceptional spies in most co, that gives them the confidence that could be a part of the, you know, my phrase for the current crew is lincoln blinking not nudge. And that small has said that on this program to you in touch me, i just, i just dont give them a lot of brain power credit. Um and the people who are pushing them the people behind them actually making the decisions or, or seeing the influence and make some decisions. Ill give them a lot of credit for thinking about our future and our posterity either. You know, our country now is one by the point 001 percent of the own about the g d p equivalent of brazil in