We inaudible rise to hostile crowds where barricades are being broken, vehicles broken and buses taken over, things lit on fire. Talking large destruction of property. I think if we say that mass scalewe saw what happened in the nation capital with barricades and destruction of property so i get it so maybe this requires language tweaking. Then, thei think this gets me pretty much maybe through it. The restocking at 10 million which happens to be the section 9. 118 threshold where you have to come anyway, we need to discuss that. And then i think ab481 specifically does require and i put the language in and you guys took it out, that it has to identify an independent oversight body. I identify the board of supervisors which seemed to be for ab481 was pointing. I think it has to identify, i think that is clear in the law so dont thinkwe can have a different oversight agency, but i think you cant strike that language is the way i read the law. Not an attorney. We are talking restocking section . No, this is r28. I can complaints and sanction. Police commission is fold under to that in terms of compliance of member compliance. Police commission is already folded into any discipline action along with the chief, so if we are talking about compliance with the government codes, 771d i believe, i think we already acknowledge the board of supervisors would be that governing body. Okay, if you can show me where, maybe we are good. We added a section at the last page, page 20. Page 20. Essentially folded it into the annual report. Not the compliance section, which just says it is the board of supervisors within their purview to oversee compliance of that government code section. We can quival about this. I see section 6, i still dont think it has the magic words of who is is the ultimate oversight authority, butwe can also talk to council about whether im right or not in the reading of ab481. Or i can just go ask david chu. Amazing that david chu was able to get this passed in assembly but automated Speed Enforcement still cant be passed. This isnt a comment on the pd, this is amount comment on the state legislator. I cant figure out the state legislature but what do i know im been a City Council Member for the last 20 years. That isi reserve my right to bring up anything else wednesday but that is it at a high level and colleagues if you want to add, subtract, go for it. If not why dont we open this item number 5 up to Public Comment . And to members of the public, i will include in the file as we did previously the most recent grid that the pd supplied to members of this committee on friday so peepical look apeople can look at it in the intervening week. I did post that earlier this morning into legistar. Excellent. One last thing for me to give you. Memberoffs the public who would like to speak and joining in person should line up to speak now afor those listening remotely call 415655o001 enter id 248889877754 and pound and pound again. Press star 3 to enter the speaker line. Those in the queue continue to wait until the system indicates you are unmuted and that is your queue to begin comment. We have personin the room for Public Comment. You have two minutes for Public Comment. Hi. My name is author cocha member of the San FranciscoFriends Meeting serving on the peace and social concern committee. We have a Quaker Meeting House on south 9th street, 65 south 9th street. So, im here to represent the meeting. Asking the board to call for further amendment of the proposed military equipment policy. To fully define authorized use for all weapons, especially assault weapons. I object to assault weapons considered standard issue as well as machine guns. I think they should be in the inventory and think they should be accounted for. We need to align receipt of annual reports and budgets. Require transparency and restocking. Note blank checks up to 10 million. That is a lot of money not to keep track of. As quaker pacifist i dont think the sfpd should have so many weapons of war. We are a city of peace, not military. I think the proposed policy is morally and ethically wrong. This policy does want safeguard the Public Welfare safety civil rights or Civil Liberties and ab481 requires governing bodies to only approve the use of the policy if it safeguard the Public Welfare safety civil rights and Civil Liberties. I visit a friend in visitation valley a couple yires ago, one of the poorest neighborhoods in San Francisco and witness willinary star Armored Vehicle making a inaudible shocking and out of proportion like it was different realty then other neighborhoods in San Francisco. I was more afraid of the police then the poverty and crime that surrounding me. Briefing devices should not be deployed against a person and only used your speaker time elapsed. Can i make one last statement . Please wrap up. Military equipment is more frequently deployed in low income black and brown communities meaning the risks impacts of Police Militarization are experienced most acutely in marginalized community. Thank you for the opportunity. Thank you fl for your comments. Any additional members of the public for comment on item 5 . No additional parties thin room we can move to call in phone number where we have 6 members in line. First speaker, please. Can you hear me now . Please proceed. Great. David pillpel again. On this item, in yes victor did upload the departments submission this morning. That is great, but also in attachment 21 the committee packet should have today date and has last week. It is better for the police to have some of this equipment and not use it then to not have it and need it in the event of some event that requires it. Thats where i fall on the acquisition or holding the equipment. My understanding is that this doesnt change what the police has, it just makes the list of that equipment publicly transparent and extent govern its use in a way that did not exist before, so it is really more about transparency then additional pension militarization of the police. I hope the Sheriff Department policy pending before this committee and any other ab481 policy gets similar scrutiny to the Police Departments. Thanks for listening. Thank you. Can we have our next caller . Hi. This is jennifer inaudible work for the american Friend Service committee. Calling to urge this committee to include assault rifles in this policy. The public deserves to know the fiscal impact of sfpd15 machine guns, 64 submachine guns, 608 assault rifles inaudible use of assault rifles lead to deaths thin city including this year automatic fire weapons are indiscriminate. The public deserves to give input how such Deadly Weapons would be used and that is provided by ab481. I also urge this committee to consider setting the annual report receipts occur in the spring. The new law ab481 requires reporting on the total annual cost for each type of military equipment and that includes not just the acquisition cost but also personnel training maintenance and more. These are outlined. That means that sfpd needs to be able to answer questions that account for personnel cost especially around training and maintenance. These questions include things like how many personnel devoted on training for each weapon . What was the cost of the personnel time . How many hours devoted towards cleaning rifles and guns . Towards cleaning maintenance on every weapon that is described . Were any of these questions done at overtime rate . By setting a due date for the annual report in the spring this will not only better align with the annual budget process for the city,b it will help sfpd to identify the changes it needs to take in the Record Keeping practices and work with a inaudible more able to fully deliver on the requirements. Thank you. Thank you. Can we have our next caller, please . Hello . Hi, please proceed. Hi. My name is john lensy pollen with the American Friends Service and my comment is very brief. The proposal from sfpd to make a fully automatic machine gun and submachine guns a standard issue and therefore exempt from ab481 requirement for use policy and reporting on those weapons is totally unique in the state. There are many other departments and i should say American Friends Service committee has reviewed more then a hundred Police Department and sheriff policies for ab481 including their use of fire arms and whether they classify as assault weapons as fire arms. The vast majority more then 90 percent of Police Department and sheriff offices include assault weapons semiautomatic rifles in the use policy for ab481. Some even say we consider this standard issue, but we in interest of transparency will include this. There is one department where the legislative body governing body said you didnt include assault rifles, we want you to include it which is under ab481 part of the authority of the governing body to say okay, this does not include in ab481 by law but we want you to include it and San Francisco has the ability to do that. On the issue of machine gun and submachine gun there are many departments that have such fire arms such weapons. None of them have classified as standard issue. Every Single Department im aware of that has those type of fire arms included them in the ab481 policy. It is atrocious that this department would attempt to classify these weapons as standard issue and exclude them thank you your time elapsed. Thank you very much. Can we have our next caller, please . Speaking for progressive labor party. Hello everyone. Lets cut to the chase. Part what are the police for . It isnt stop crime or protect us. inaudible the police kill us with impunity, bust down our doors, stop and search us, they break up our demonstrations, they spy on us, they are basically a hired killers to keep a tiny ruling class in power. Now they want military weapons. Why . Well, millions are becoming homeless. Our kids dont have enough food, schools are chaos or prisons, cant get health care, cant afford food or gas and now preparing for a war with russia and china that will get our social services. The police want military weapons because the bosses are afraid of massive rebellion and they are right, we will rebel but we need it go beyond rebellion. We need a inaudible not have to fight the same battles over and over and over again. Elections will not do it. We can do it. All of these fights today against militarizing the police against school closings, against evictions they can bring us together and teach us how to fight. Lets keep our eye on the prize driving out the bosses with working class revolution. Thank you. Thank you. Can we have our next caller, please . Good morning, this is regina inaudible Women International league for peace and freedom. inaudible have already talked about issues i was going to raise, so im going to focus on a couple other things. One is i want to thank chair peskin for continuing this item. Continuing to dialogue with the Police Department to get more specific information into this policy and the board is going to make policy decisions that are important to this ordinance. We need more definitions of the [audio cut out] inaudible available to us early enough so we actually could review that and i fallowed very easily the comments made by chair peskin, because of that document. I will look forward to seeing the responses after wednesdays meeting with the Police Department. I would like you to ask the Police Department about two other items. One, is there 10 million figure. As you mentioned that is kind of standard so it really needs to be a smaller amount. I still think it is a great idea to have a earlier report along the budget cycle starting in beginning of the year up to march, so that we have early indication how this policy is playing out in terms of a annual report. So, those are basically the thingsyou have my written comments for more detail. Appreciate that you are taking the time to make sure that we get a policy that is the one that the city deserves as a city of peace and that i know we are past the deadline, but it is more important to get it right. Thank you. Thank you. Can we have our next caller, please . Hello, my name is paul riley, and i live in San Francisco in district 10. I represent all of us inaudible i ask the board of supervisors to call for further amendment of the proposed military equipment use policy inaudible authorized use for all weapons especially assault weapons. These weapons have historically been misused. I ask the board to examine the continuous sequence of policies which lead to the assault upon unknowing African American community. Restrictive covenants make a heavy presence of police in the neighborhood to make sure people stayed within these boundaries and this goes all the way back to the killing of matthew johnson, a 15 year old unarmed boy in hunters point. I heard the supervisor mention destruction of property, inaudible was murdered. The mayor at the time john selly authorized state inaudible violence against the entire Community Using military equipment. I was not alive at the time but grew up in the neighborhood with tanks driving around, being used against the community. I grew up in a neighborhood where ar15 were pointed at me telling me to go inside the house. I please ask the board to look at this matter because it will impact the entire community which i live in. Thank you. Thank you. Can we have our next caller . Yes. Good morning. Tracey inaudible from open privacy from the media alliance. Good morning again and thanks for the work that has been done so so far. I wanted to express three quick concerns. Number one, the restocking fee at 10 million, that is a large amount of money, and potentially could represent a significant increase in volume, so we would ask you to look at lowering that number. Secondly, assembly 48 which passed in the same year as Assembly Bill 481, restricts the use of chemical weapons, flash bags, bean bags and those kind of things in crowd control. It significantly restricts it and we ask you to integrate these policies with ab48. Lastly, i believe that currently we have robots authorized for deadly force which could be used to Remote Control kill someone. This is what oakland considered and sort of stepped back from, because it is really scary, and i would ask that San Francisco also consider stepping back from having that kind of equipment authorized for basically Remote Control killing. So, thank you and have a good day. Thank you. Can we have our next caller, please . Hello. My name is inaudible buller. Im a Community Activist of many years. I pointed out and read the law if enforcement equipment use of policy and recommended edits of ab481 and interested to heard the comments made before me and i want to say i appreciate greatly the hard work that supervisor peskin has done in dealing with what is put before him. I want to say that i find this a bazaar way to deal with our fear of the other. We at present in our community and our nation are faced with a lot of unrest and to overreact to that by way of allowing expenditures to the Police Department that can result in serious harm to members of our public is really unthinkable. So, i inaudible i support the use of the funds used to supply and to use of any military weapons forinstead use for social services and unmet community needs. Furthermore, i would like the proud city of San Francisco to send a message to the federal government legislators, the weapons manufacturers, u. S. Military, the police force itself and general public that we do not want or need military weapons to handle our Civic Affairs and prefer to use the funds for Police Training in community relations, non violent interventions and management of Law Enforcement and in addition Meeting Community needs. Thank you for your attention and i wish you all great luck. Thank you. Can we have our next caller, please . inaudible my god. So, first off, we always have a bunch of people that dont live in San Francisco that want to come on and advocate for what is going on in San Francisco. You need to stop that. Number 2, the policethere are lot of good police officers. I had seen them last night inaudible deal compassionately and not with assault rifles. inaudible when you are saying that the criminals are taking over the streets, you need to look at why are we not holding other agencies account able for the work they are supposed to be doing . I think there should be a medium in there for assault rifles and at the same time held accountable. The inaudible it ends up here in our community. I mean, they have all these stuff up there and on january 6 when they had the insurrection inaudible because they were a lot of white people. One person got shot. inaudible black lives matter and they were doing peaceful protest so therefore we cant take away everything from the police to do their job. At the same time you cant give them everything [difficulty hearing speaker due to audio quality] for the work they are supposed to be doing inaudible their job for Mental Health to call the police and then do it in a compassionate way. We need to find a medium and stop allowing people that do not live in San Francisco, white people that dont live in San Francisco to speak up for San Francisco when it is not for us in the first place. It will cause more harm to our communities inaudible thats my two cents of the whole thing your time elapsed. Thank you. That was our last caller for Public Comment. Okay. Public comment for today at least is closed, and colleagues as previously discussed i make a motion to continue this to our meeting of november 14. On that motion, a roll call, please. Yes, on the motion to continue the matter to november 14 [roll call] motion passes without objection. Alright. Next and last item please. See you wednesday. Next on the agenda is item 6. Ordinance amending the campaign governmental conduct code to update the conflict of interest code form 700 Filing Requirements by adding deleting and changing titles of certain designated officials and employees to reflect organizational and staffing changes and by refining Disclosure Requirements for certain designated officials and employees. Alright. We have been asked by the department of Human Resources that is still meeting and conferring to continue this item to the 12 day of december, but meanwhile, we have a few amendments to discuss that i will pull up here in a minute. I got from president waltons office that seem to be relatively de minimis in nature but require continuance anyway. Added 1 position to City Attorney office restoring the two disclosures from Fine Art Museum and city administrator. Adding the refuse rate board to inaudible and a new section 3. 1397 as thei have a couple questions we can figure out between now and december 12 as it relates to the refuse Rate Administrator on page 17, which sets the Rate Administratorthis was at the suggestion of the controller as a disclosure category 2, and i think we should think about whether that should be a disclosure category 1. The way it is currently written, the refuse Rate Administrator when that individual is retained by the city pursuant to proposition f of last june, would only have to disclose their investments and positions in a business entity which is engaged in the refuse business in San Francisco. I found that maybe to be too narrow. To the extent that there is every competition in this arena as it relates to refuse other then by recumbent recology provider it seems to me this individual should have to disclose any relations with any refuse business regardless whether they have business in San Francisco or not. So, madam deputy City Attorney, i assume we can take this up with the controller and deal with it in the interim. Deputy City Attorney ann pearson. Yes the Controller Office has recommended the designation and they can explain why they went with the 2 instead of 1. As to the issue about disclosures related to interest outside the jurisdiction, this is drafted to conform or operationalize the political format and that state law requires disclosures of financial interest within a jurisdiction. So, all of disclosures respect within the jurisdiction. That is why this is drafted the way it is. The board could certainly decide this is a position that should make additional disclosures above and beyond those required by state law, but that would probably need to be codified elsewhere. Alright. Thank you for that. The only other thing which is super nitpicky that ill add is just i never heardthis is page 18 of a director of public space regeneration. What is that . This is not exactly rhetorical question, but i wouldnt mind hearing from the Economic Workforce Development office what that is. There is some other goofy new titles. Deputy director of Community EconomicDevelopment Invest in neighborhoods. I guess maybe we knew that, but public space regeneration, what is that . Are there any members of the public who like to testify on this item . Yes, members of the public who wish to speak on this item and joining in person can line up to speak at this time. For those listening remotely call 4156550001 and enter id24889 aket 77754 and pound and pound again. Once connected you need to press 3 to enter the speaker line. For those already in the queue please continue to wait until the system indicates you run muted and that is your queue to begin comments. There are no members in the room. We have one caller on the line for Public Comment at this time. Can we have our first caller . Great. David pillpel, one of my favorite tasks to go through. Throughout i think generic titles like manager 1, manager 3 can be more specific. Some departments have that, others dont. I dont understand why a number of policy and communication positions are category 1 and not category 2 where that exists. It seems they would have limited ability to make decisions that implicate coi issues. Very specific airport, page 411 i would use divisions because the airport is large and it is difficult to figure which positions if they are not set up by division. The controller, page 18, i dont understand the reference to these prop q whatever it is instigator positions. I think that could be better explained or more specific. Dem page 19, i would use divisions. There are too many abbreviations with respect to dem about inaudible some of us know what that means but it is not particularly clear. Page 22, 918 may not deed Division Since it is so small and there is reference to new positions on one line i think could be struck. Dhr, page 34, lines 10 and 11, again, prop q positions. Puc, page 39 to 50. Again, i would use divisions. This is proposing to collapse all that. Saf, page 5658. I donts think the lower level positions need to be category 1. That seems inconsistent with other departments and perhaps inconsistent with their responsibilitiess and finally, ocii page 59, line 2, i believe the suba in parenthesis at the beginning can be deleted. If you want to advise if there is someone i should follow up with on these specifics im happy to communicate that and look forward to the further hearing on this in december. Thanks. Thank you. Any other members for this item . No additional callers for this matter. Alright. To the speaker, if you want to put that in an email and send it to the clerk of this committee, he will dissiminate it to the appropriate parties. Public comment is closed. I will make a motion to adopt the amendments circulated by nattily gee on behalf of president walton and make one other additional amendment at page 17 at section 3. 1195 to change the refuse Rate Administrator from disclosure category 2 to disclosure category 1. And on that double amendment or two amendments in one, a roll call please. On the motion to amend [roll call] motion passes without objection. Alright. And then depending on what the Voters Decide tomorrow, we may or may not on december 12 take out the reference to the department of streets and sanitation, but well figure that out tomorrow night or december 12, which ever comes first. I make a motion to continue the item as amended to december 12. Motion to continue to december 12 [roll call] the motion passes without objection. We are adjourned. [meeting adjourned] nov2 the time 9 04. This is in person at the location listed above. Authorized by government code in mayor breeds supplement to her february 25, 2020 emergency proclamation. It is possible some members of the Fire Commission may attends remotely. They will participate and vote by video. Members of the public may upon thaendz this mote to bench and provide Public Comment at the location listed on the agenda or online at the link which can be found on the agenda. You may watch live at sfgov. Org. To participate by phone dial 4156550001 and use access code 2483 379 2202. The public is asked to wait for the upon agenda item before making a comment on that item. Comments will be addressed in the order received. When the moderator announces the commission is taking comment members can raise hands by pressing star 3. Callers will hear silence when wait being to speak. Operator will unmute you. Callers will have the 3 minutes to provide comment. Ensure you near a quiet location. Speak clearly and turn off tvs or radios around you. Item 1. Roll call. President feinstein. Present. Vice president nakajo. Present. Commissioner morgan. Present. Commissioner fraser. Present. Commissioner collins. Present. Chief of Department Jeanine Nicholson. Present. No audio. [applause] [cannot hear speaker] she started Development Companies and consulting companies. And from everything i hear it is a real delight. And incredible low hard worker. We need and you welcome you. Anyone of us is here to assist if you need any assistance in anybodying. I think will find the Fire Department has its own language. And we are working on our glossaries of reports so the abbreviations can be understood by us and the public. So. Dont you are not a shy person i know that. Dont hez ve hesitate to ask questions. I wanted say, welcome item 2 president fine stein read the land acknowledgment. Ramaytush ohlone land acknowledgement the San FranciscoFire Commission acknowledges that we are on the unceded ancestral homeland of the Ramaytush Ohlone who are the original inhabitants of the San Francisco peninsula. As the indigenous stewards of this land, and in accordance with their traditions, the Ramaytush Ohlone have never ceded, lost, nor forgotten their responsibilities as the caretakers of this place, as well as for all peoples who reside in their traditional territory. As guests, we recognize that we benefit from living and working on their traditional homeland. We wish to pay our respects by acknowledging the ancestors, elders, and relatives of the Ramaytush Ohlone community and by affirming their sovereign rights as first peoples. Thank you. Item 3 general Public Comment. Members may address the commission up to 3 minutes on any matter in the jurisdiction this does not appear on the agenda. Speakers shall address to the commission as a whole approximate not to individual commissioners or Department Personnel. Commissioners are not to enter in debate or discussion with the speaker. Lack of a response boy the commissioners or Department Personnel does in the necessary low constitute agreement with or support of statements made during Public Comment. If you like to comment by phone raise your hand by pressing star 3 now. I dont see anybody in the odd yenls. Audience. Would you like to make Public Comment. Ja good morning. This is dave tilde [inaudible] rincon be [inaudible] Association Im getting feedback on this line. I will continue. We have contacted the Fire Department a number of occasions about what appear to bes a dangerous [inaudible] situation and have had no clear response on [inaudible] this feedback is coming through the phone, not my tv. You know there is a saying that public faith [inaudible] using if you see something, say something. Thats fine but there is an obligation there that somebody says something that the officials do something. People are not going to [inaudible] our concern is that hundreds of residents are repeatedly being instructed to [inaudible] alarms they may hear. We believe is always risky. But here we are told to ignore alarms for an uncertain amount time and sometimes for many hours. Almost all day. And for no reason we can make out. If you recall they tell you to ignore alarms when there is test nothing a remote portion of the large complex. Alarms we not hear being tested. Why are they telling us to ignore alarms well not hear . It is a ridiculous situation and management keeps blaming the Fire Department saying thats had they are ordered to do. Because this instruction was given on an uncertain time period. Can be all day people lose track if it is still in affect. We ask this somebody in the Fire Department tell us if this confusing process is being impelemented here acerately. To give you an example of a problem last saturday we were told to ignore alarms around 9 a. M. I went out and came back at noon. I did not know if the order was in affect i asked at the front desk. I said when i left we were under instructions to ignore the alarms. Now that im returning to my apartment should i still do that . Should i respond to alarmings. Your time is up. Thank you very much. The person did not know. That is all of Public Comment. Public comment shall be closed. Item 4 approval the minutes. Discussion and possible action to approve the Meeting Minutes from our october 26, 22 meeting. All right. And do we have any Public Comment on the minutes . S caller, will you like to comment on the minutes . Um i would like to know who i can call to find out about the situation in rincon planner. Would you like to make if i call the [inaudible]. Will anybody respond . Any further comment. No. All right. Any questions, discussions, corrections . By any of my fellow commissioners on the minutes . Im seeing none. May have a motion motion to approve the minutes. Thank you. Is there a second. Thank you. Moved and seconded. President feinstein . Adopt the minutes. Vice president nakajo. Adopt the minutes. Commissioner collins. Adopt the minutes. Jot motion passes 4nothing. Item 5. Chief of departments report from chief of Department Jeanine Nicholson on issues, activities and events Went Department since the meeting on october 26 of 2022, including budget, academy, special event, communication and out roach to other Government Agencies and the public. And report from operations deputy chief Robert Postel on over all Field Operations leading greater alarm fires. Bruro of Fire Prevention and investigation. Training within the department and the airport division. Greetings and salutations, all. Im your San Francisco fire chief jeanine nicholson. Madam president feinstein. Vice president nakajo. Commissioner morgan and fraser and new commissioner collins, welcome temperature it is a tloil have a full commission. Now i have somebody across from me i can look at. Welcome and we i appreciate every one of the commissioners and look forward to working with you. Greetings to command staff here and to sister maureen as well. As you know, i was off for a week. And so i dont have a lot to report. But one thing of interest, there is no mayoral Department Head meeting today i dont have to run out after 15 minutes. And i will have a meeting with the mayor tomorrow. Month low meeting. This afternoon we are conducting interviews for diversity, equity and inclusion chief. Before i left on my trip, i met with district 8 supervisor mandelman who i see has won the election. And he has voiced concerns around his district before, you may have sewn it in the media. We had a good conversation with him on how our street teams work. In his district. Hoe is policed with the Fire Department. That was a good meeting. We have april 60 candidates going through all of their medical background now. All their medical tests and for a class of firefighter h2 academy coming in january. We are moving along with that process. We expect somewhere around 50 may be more than 50 to be in the class. We always start with more recruits not everyone make its through all of the hoops they need to jump through. That is moving along well and the Doctors Office got dp them through thanks to them. And you know our other members do a lot of good work i know that chief postel and tom will speak a lot about our rescues and fires and medical and community and paramedicine and the new subway we have. It is 10 stories under ground. It is a challenge but our members have been doing great work there with the mta. Graduation of the current h2 Firefighter Academy is november 18th. Would love to see you all there. If you are able. As november 18th. November 18th. Which i believe is next friday. Is this right. So and yea. Would love to see you all there if you are able to attend. It is i festive a nice occasion for families and the staff and everyone. So and then covid is around but has really decreased. You know we have a few people half a dozen off longterm covid. We have very few new infections these days and the department is doing well with that. Im very pleased. One last thing the macys Tree Lighting tonight. My staff will be there with neil in the square. That is all i have to report. All right. Thank you, chief and welcome back. Thank you. All right. Do we have Public Comment on the chiefs report . All right. And nobody in the audience. Public comment will be closed. And turn to my fellow commissioners for questions for the chief. Im seeing none. Your lucky day, chief. I know and i dont have to run to the mayors meeting i was ready to be peppered. I was going to say that and i thought better ask. We will proceed to our next item and that would be chief postel. Good morning. Good morning, chief and staff president feinstein and Vice President nakajo and commissioners morgan, fraser and welcome commissioner collins to the greatest Fire Commission and Fire Department in the world. This is an organization with a tremendous amount of history. There is pride. We are recognized throughout the country and the world for the way we do business and whether the cutting edge ems stuff or effectiveness with fire suppression. There is no one this matches what this Fire Department does and im proud whf we do here. With that, welcome. I will move on to our report. This is bob postel the deputy chief operation this is is my report for october 2022. During october there were 20 fires one of these was a greater alarm. I will get to that. There were upon 7 water rescues and one cliff rescue. The second alarm 1926 palua fire in the rear of a family dwelling 2 story wood frame house it was a shallow house. Had a partial sublet on the rear and the 2 buildings on either side extended beyond the rear of the original fire belling. The companies had heavy fire in the rear. And the 2 structureos either side. First was lead through the fire building on the ground throughout garage to the rear. The chief recognized the building on the right the belta exposure. And because of that, there was minimal damage to that building the exterior siding was burned but they contained the fire and keep it out of the walls almost no damage or displacements from the building the third had to go above the fire. The fire was already in the ocpied living space and traveling toward the street. We had to contain that. The second Alarm Companies went in to the building on the left the bravo building. Contain today to the roar but there was damage. In the attic. When they show up on scene there is always rescues to be made and expose urs, occurrence special over head wires that give us access issues. So our chief officers and the division chief Dustin Nguyen who showed up, they have to make split second decisions where to deploy the resources and trianning what is happening at the events. So that they can have dot greatest good for the incident. In this case they really minimized the exposure and problem in the delta building. Did the best they could in bravo. Had they focussed on the main fire building there was be more damage. Quick thinking by josh and the leadership by Dustin Nguyen. To have 3 buildings going and all of that happening at one time. The lessons he learned he will share and well all grow from it. A great job by everybody on that one. I mentioned there were several water rescues last month. During the sum and fall we have a lot of water and cliff rescues. In wind they diminish. The other night about 6 30 at 9 there was a surfer at dead mans cove. Hit in the head with surf board. Disorientd and drifting out and it was after dark. His friends reported him lost. And the rescue stations and jet skis made their way around and our coastal rescue units and surf rescue got out and put 2 people in the water and swim in the dark. Find the super and swim him to the rescue boat. Get him on the boat and he was alive and breathe when they got him to the dock and had a head injury what the extent of that i dont know. Had our people not got in the water and got him that would be a life loss. We make a tremendous difference beyond fires. Everything we do every day. Thats the operational part of the job. Fire prevention. In my capacity as the operations chief this is for you commissioner collins i over see training Fire Prevention and the airport and the operations of the department. Field operations. Fire prevention and fire marshall ken, completed 2100 inspections. Thats a lot of work out there. 380 complaints can be a fire code violation. Received during the month of october. 237 for a violation came to our Company Based residential building inspection program. That shows you that how our different divisions Work Together. Our companies in the fields are doing inspections they are finding fire safety violations they will rereport them so they can follow up and address those and get those rem deed that is 2 thirsd came from our own people noticing them. In the report listed different types of complaintos page 8 if you want details. And issued 413 operational permits. During october. These being be for public aaccept blees. Gas stations open placements. Upon community out reach people run through the bureau 5 prevention. Attended 911s do recruitment and public sxejz an opportunity for us to inneract with the public and teach them about fire safety and when we do and make us available to them as career choices. Plan check. They are under assistant fire marshall it 668 permits submitted during october and 580 permits were approved. This is for all the construction you see going on in the city. South vaness i will talk about in a minute. Done a great job to get thicks going in the city. We have i spoke briefly about housing. A special unit in the bureau lead by fire marshall lou russell. Works on Large CommunityDevelopment Projects related to affordable housing. And they also work the addition of additional dwelling units. In order to get more housing in the city. In the report the projects they have been working on. But one things there was an e mail received i want to read it to you i did in the include it in the report. This e mail came from philip wong the project manager in the office of economic and workforce development. This is regards to a press release the Mayors Office put out Ground Breaking of 157 new affordable home and Childcare Center at potrero hope sf. Here is the e mail this is addressed to lou russell the assist an fire marshall and cammal, a civilian Fire Prevention engineer does heavy lift to get projects through. High chief russell and cammal. Thanks for your work on the potrero hope s project you are the most dedicated people i met. Families will move in fair safe housing because of you and your team. Gratitude, philip. One of the many things going on in the department and people dont get rescue nigsz they make this city better. Wanted bring that to your attention. Under Fire Prevention the fire investigation. 8 inspectors and 3 lieutenants. They investigate any suspicious fires or fires we are unable to determine a cause. They responded to 9 structure fires and 10 fire incidents and everyone of the fires it is a big much more indepth report they dom they dont do a brief they do an indepth report. It is a lot of work they are doing there. The upon airport, pat dorsey, during october they responded 470 incidents. And of the 470 incidents, 31 were elevator rescues. I know president feinstein very concerned about the elevators i thought i would highlight that for you as language as i dont have to take one 31 successful elevator rescues. I would expect nothing less, chief and Emergency Responses. Dorsey the chief rescued all the meetings are detailed in a report. A large part is beyond their daily response is preparation and training we hope never happens they take this seriously. I saw all this work pave their drill back in september that is their work load. Next is the division and training under e chief. The recruit class will graduate on november 18th. 44 of the 51 remain in the class and participated everyone will graduate. You will see photos getting their ride on the fire boat after they assisted with the hose testing. The most new person tasks a new firefighter has to learn, cook. The respect is developed between the staff out there and the recruits and they get a bond. This is a way they sort of bridge that gap with the structure and the student at the end of the academy. There are photos showing during live burn training and running on the bridge, physical fitness is integral part of the job we instill in recrews how important it is to remain fit you cant make it 30 years if you cant remain fit. You have to keep yourself in shape for yourself and fellow firefighters. Related training we have a High Rise Committee. And fighting a fire on a high rise is different than in the building. So over the weekend. Act 22 and 23 the High Rise Committee lead by pat rob and i know nicole conduct the first high rise drill in over 2 years. They did it in a new building, city owns 49 south vaness the permits are processed and plans are checked. We chose this has unique features and has approximate primarily new Elevator Technology you find in San Francisco. They are occupant evidence elevators. This came out of the world trade center. Incident and we are told dont take the elevator in case of a fire. They develop the new elevator catharsis protected and not will not shut if water gets in the shaft and trying to evacuate the 5 floors surrounding a fire incident. They automatically if the fire is on the 35th floor they will take the 2 floors above and 2 below and go back and forth and shuttle people out of the floors. In addition to that we have new Elevator Technology. There is 2 or 3 building in San Francisco that have the evacuation elevators now. They have Fire Service Access elevators, allows us now we will not take one that penetrates within 2 floors of the fire floor doors will not open and fighters are killd that way they have new technology they build the protected Fire Service Access elevators allow our people to take an elevator in a shaft that will penetrate the fire get off a floor or 2 below. Exit and lead you to a stair well and make a hose leap. Get their quicker. This is new technology. We have to train our people and expose them to this. One of the people that Fire Prevention has is the fire preprotection engineer i know well, wes and this guy is a treasure for the Fire Department. Elevators and everything about what keeps the buildings safe. Took this weekend and participated both days. Shared knowledge about elevators. With the chief officers and did such a good job the chiefs go back on their day off to get more information. He is a great treasure for us. That drill was a success. The chief mentioned the central subway training. The new 7 ral subway is unique. It is different than any under ground transit we have not guilty city. The china town station is 10 stories below grade. Inverted high rise for yous. Fire Protection Systems in that stations are different than we have anywhere else. Access is differentful evacuation of people from those stations will be difficult. And the tunnel does not run [inaudible] it changes in grade. There is a lot going on with this and our Transit Committee under assistant chief here today. With battalion chief have been involved in this they work with muni. Had table top drills and walk through drills. With all of our companies theyll responded they when they are up against when they get there and have operational drills that will start occurring prior to the soft opening of the subway. Thats another facet of what we do. Thanks to that team. And finally nert had a busy month our the division of training. On october fifth a sales force employee preparedness fair. The 7, 8 and ninth involved in fleet week. 15th semian null drill they have a drill where they apply skills the 17th an earthquake art commemoration at fire station 35. So. Busy month for everybody that concludes my report. Hope i did not give you too much information. Thank you, you did not. Is there Public Comment on chief postels report . There is nobody on the comment line. All right. Good. Public comment will be closed. Im just going to take an advantage here and go first. Let me ask, since im certain no construction expert. When you are speak about the new high rise elevators we know we have a number of new high rised every street i drive down has a new building as a native of San Francisco i finds myself having to look for street signs it figure out where i am. The buildings dont serve as markers. How are you possible low going to train all your command staff and and Division Chiefs and firefighters and officers and where in the building they are to go to get to a fire safe elevator . So, the new elevators in New Buildings and its something that the developers can elect to put in the system. Into their Building Design and allows them in the indicates occupant evidence i believe they e eliminate one in. Is that right . Normally they have 3 stair wells for evacuations they add the occupancy elvirtthey e eliminate a stair wel. A decision the developer makes. They are not going in so fast we cant keep track the new building guess in the companies are aware what feature there is. The people who respond will know what is well and available to them. And much like the pro75 high rises we know whether they were sprinklered or not. Again you will it is a change in the era when they were built when you participate seeing the features. And how many buildings right now have been approved to have this System Installed . Ken can answer that. Both. [cannot hear speaker]. Im sorry. He works in my work. The occupant evacuation elevators reduced the stair weleffort and inch makes motional buildings 420 feet or higher. Super high rises. You have different levels. 210 feet. 420 and 75 other different levels. Frequently this point on most will forgive or not want a third stair welto have that. The chief said there are 3 of the first in the world to have one. I know the pipeline now you can building over 40 stories will have those elevators the Fire Service Access elevators are going in every building. Those you cant tell the difference you would use the same elevator the difference is the way it is build and design today is used by the public. And the difference is the different Fire Service Access if you lockup you see a fire machines hat that tells our people that can use that elevator as a Fire Service Access elevator versus a normal elevator thank you. Appreciate t. Thank you chief postel. And defer to my fellow commissioners any questions . Commissioner fraser . Thank you. Thank you, chief it was a fascinating report not too much detail a good amount and i appreciated. And appreciated not only the detail butting expression of pride in the members. I watched going back to the water rescue when this was at night. I watched video. It was amazing i dont know if you not sure who put it up. I have not seen the video. There is a vo of swimming in the dark to get this guy and the board is out there and there are lights shining from the beach out there. It is amaze to see. Because as an open water swimmer not ever at night but i know how cold that water is. It is not only physical fitness and redness to get in the water but able to endure the cold temperatures of this water. I dont know how to express my xreeshgz. He will make sure they will know. I will. Thank you very much. It was incredible and Everything Else you shared today. Thank you very much. I learned a lot today. Great report chief postel, i dont know my microphone is working, i talk loud. Anyway. I want to commend the response in the about the fire at paloo if station 42 . Yes. That is near my place. I want to commend them for their response and all their activity helping them to put this fire out. And i know they it was an issue with one of the one way streets or one of the streets got turn in the a one way street and that screwed you up a street that used to go through the blocked off and so one of the thing in that part of the city i worked out there and the companies that the team worked they showed help each other accomplish their job is like anywhere in the city. We are on the same team they feel have unique challenges on bayview or the streets they go above in how hay coordinate and Work Together to deal with water supply and access. 2 inches to get us supply and 42 at the front. Yea. They dont know what would cause the fire. It is under investigation. I believe a battery. Okay. Yea. A big are problem. Other properties damaged, too. Minimal damage to the one on the right. Bravo the left had more extensive damage beyond the fire building that fire got in there quickly in the wall and the attic space. They contained it to the back. Im getting used to the lingo now the bravo, charlie and delta. I know chief postel will be familiar with it soon. Right . You stand at the front a is the front and b, c is the career and d is the right side you go clock wise around the building. Very detailed report and commend all the companies that were involved in all the commander involved with putting out this fire you do a great job, thank you. Thank you. Make sure they get the message yoochl who is the battalion chief at station 42. Josh per era. Okay. Thank you. Anything further . I remembered this question might go to chief nicholson it was interesting i forgot to ask about it. The how is that hunt going for the earthquake management position eser . You are hiring for00 eye management position for specialized earthquake safety Emergency Response. I guess the budget is 4 years . So, eser is what our bonds are called. Earthquake safety and Emergency Response we get most our money for repairs, rebuilds and money for the new Training Center. Since this Training Facility is a big deal, it took us 3 dwroers get land. We got the land. And it is you know 100 year project t. Is imperative we make sure a good job is don this. As well as our other projects, but this one is rises to another level in my opinionful if we dont have a good Training Center we are all in trouble. So this is a position that will over see basically the bond. All the work that is done on the Training Center. And other rebuilds and repairs and stuff you see that is often under support service fist you seen a support Services Report in your packet during administration time. It is this thick. It is crazy the amount of work that is done under support services. And it is in the sustainable. Especially with this Training Facility. Yes, we put out for a position of assist upon act department chief of eser and we put that out a week ago. I dont know how many have applied . But i think the dead line is next week. 14 or 15th. Yea. We will know more then. I think it was a great idea. Yea. We also. To be able to really understand and know what public works part is in everything. And you know we want to have real transparency. Putting someone in charge is the way to do that thank you. Chief. Thats all i got. Vice president. Of course. Showed me how to turn this on. It has been years since i developed a high rise and clearly before the evacuation Elevator Technology existed. I recall that in addition to all the trinning that you are doing or sort of core sponlds to the training you must do to fight fires should they occur, the training for the people this are going to live in the buildings this needs to happen. Right . Where do you go . What do you do . Some building owners are better than others. How do you find owners and Property Managers level of cooperation . And working with you Going Forward to say, look, this is how you live in this building and the floors you go to and the event of the new technology here is how it is used. I imagine that is a big issue . Yea. My experience and i used to chair the High Rise Committee we worked with biomea they facilitated building its drill in, a high rise remodeled they had floors we could go and build props and full scale drills. A lot of times ordinance reach out to us to conduct drills this is the small are buildings. Well send a company out to assist them with evacuation drill. And then our inspection there is is no evacuation component . We dont have formal annual drill. Not your responsibility would be im sure biomea is a great partner but im sure you are available should an owner. Absolutely. The chiefs are always available for and we try to develop a relationship with the engineers in the buildings. If you do have an incident in a building the chief engineer will be by there and the systems play a role in dealing with the fire as putting water on it. We try to make sure we have good relationships with Building Engineers from responding to alarms in the buildings daily. Thank you. Very good. Thank you. Mr. Vice president. Thank you madam president. First i as well with our colleagues on the commission would like to welcome you commissioner collins. I wrote an e mail to the president talking about how is for us to the commissioners to have a will full 5 commissioners. So. It is really a welcome to have you. I also wrote the president that my assignment because of your participation and upon experience within Development Business all of those experience that you have within the world you have been working with i followed a bill in terms of the relationship that i have with your husband chuck collins, but also that commissioner fraser joined us with this Health Experience as well. And then commissioner morgan in terms of the labor and within that and our president former retired judge law and part of our responsibilities are sharings and im surety president will talk to you about those responsibilities as well. But i wanted welcome you feels good to have a full team. Chief. I wanted say that. At this point chief postel thank you for your report. And i wanted ask you a couple things off the get go. In terms of talking about this subway the new subway and it hen around for so long i forgot how long it has been. Thats how long it has been. I knew we were getting close to operation. I assume that will be part of it. Just to refresh me, where does that subway start, where does that subway ends . How long is it . Is there a name for the subway . The central subwait portal is fourth and brannon. The trains will enter. And runs 1. 7 mile and a station at yerba buena mosconi. A station at union square. Directly adjacent to the garage and under and a station in china town the rose station. The china town station is 10 floors below grade. Union square is 5 floors below grade. And the moscoi yerba buena is 2 below grade. In terms of how challenging that subway is i will use that terminology with your report. Had you say china town what did you say 5 floors down . 10