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And that plane flies for 10 hours 10 hours all over the United States it gathers data it has a giant telescope aboard they don't have a bathroom what. They do and we're going to talk to you from up there on Tuesday night Tuesday night via Skype by Skype that's excited you're excited about this you know now I am it's been we're in the works for a couple months so I was like yeah yeah but now that it's like the last week I'm really examine you have to wear special uniform or anything like that No but you do have to do a couple hours of training Yeah they want you well it's a job that's exciting Yeah well I We look forward to hearing from you Tuesday night as you go all around the country right all around the country I'll be able to tell you what state we are over check out the St Louis formerly sure of Detroit to say hi to my mom why aren't there flying but anyway have a happy birthday and many many more for you Tom Thank you George all right it's exciting. 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Stayed informed on the markets and what affects your money what business report to Al today on Talk Radio 680. And welcome back Paul Kimball with us of course he is the investigator the producer the documentary director you does it all and he's the nephew of Stanton Friedman now father of modern day you follow g. We'll get your calls too but Paul before we do I want to get your take on what you think is happening in the animal mutilations phenomenon. It's weird we did 2 things one happy birthday to Tom Dan hisor Thanks Les you're dealing with him he's a he's a top not a he's a pro all the way and 2 animal mutilations I did a film about them back in 2005 profiling a Canadian investigator named fern Bellville from Alberta crusty old cattle rancher and Fern was convinced that cattle mutilations were real and well the real but that they were paranormal and that space aliens were involved so. I was not convinced it is so I hope folks when they're listening I know sometimes you know when you're skeptical it sets people there like or. So ghosts and U.F.O.'s I'm still open minded but to tell me evolutions in terms of a paranormal investigation or animal mutilations I didn't see any evidence that would convince me that that's what's going on in fact I read a number of reports and I'm not talking about the can Rommel report but veterinarians there's a report the Canadian veterinary Journal which. Animal mutilation researchers I didn't know about or weren't referencing the basically said most of it could be explained by scavengers and predators and it's you know it's a very long sort of explanation for why having said all that so I don't think it's paranormal but having said all that I do still retain a small part of my brain the part of me that says the governments don't tell us everything which I think is pretty clear as we see documents continually where we can see that governments don't in fact tell us everything that it's possible that the government was testing and maybe even still is testing the cattle population in the United States and Canada for mad cow disease and you know I've run into people who say well if they were testing why didn't they just test them on their own cattle on their own. Farm Well you'd want to test them throughout the population around the country I would think that makes sense to me so you wouldn't want to let the populace though know about it because we're all carnivores and and you know if you suddenly even give the faintest hint that there was a problem with the meat supply you know we saw what happened to the Canadian beef industry when there were a few cases out west and it tanked our beef industry so would the United States government in conjunction with other governments have staged these kinds of sort of paranormal things to make them look weird because then as Stan would say the laughter occurred people would sort of dismiss it and they could go about their business largely undetected so I think that's what happened probably not but that that idea I don't rule out and I've talked to a number of people over the years in the intelligence communities who don't rule it out either even though they would say look we don't we don't know about it but it sounds like the kind of thing that you know we might do so you know I grew up talking to one guy who had worked for the f.b.i. And he said look I didn't do it but it does sound like the kind of thing that people I know would do they're capable of doing yes absolutely So you know I like Carl flock who was a very good u.f.o. Researcher passed away a number of years ago from Lou Gehrig's disease was a good friend of mine Karl was very skeptical he wrote a book you know skeptical on the animal mutilation thing but Carl was also he told me once he said look because he used to be a CIA agent was I think an assistant deputy secretary of defense under Reagan congressional staffers so he you know he knew a lot about secrecy and he sat me down in the said Whatever you see today in terms of technology that the military has you can assume that they had that 10 to 15 years ago that's what they're letting you know they have so they have something else that's 10 to 15 years in advance of that right now that they're not telling you about. And I said well that's frightening and he said yes you should be frightened because you know there's all sorts of stuff that you don't know about and you never will and you know I kind of even though he didn't apply that to the animal mutilation thing he said he said look people keep secrets I was paid to keep secrets for years and so you know if you believe that you know everything that the government's doing you don't and maybe animal mutilations you know I there's a small part of my brain that says that I don't rule that out. Paul there is so much going on we just had the 20th anniversary of the Phoenix light Did you ever investigate that story. No I didn't actually George I've talked to people I've met link a tie for instance and others who did investigate it I you know my dad told me many years ago if you don't know anything about a particular subject you probably shouldn't say anything so I mean I've by no means am I an expert on the Phoenix Lights case I know I know people on both sides within you fall a g I know people who say look here's how you explain it and I'm not talking about skeptics I mean people that I would probably classes believers and then I know people who say no that doesn't work and that explanation doesn't wash and it's like Remote Viewing I've just never really had a chance to look into it and it wasn't one of those cases that popped up on our top 10 list for instance when we did the poll and I don't even think it was in the top 20 because we at the end of the day are about 60 cases that get at least one vote and the Phoenix Lights was in there somewhere but I think it was in the thirty's so you know it wasn't a case that attracted my attention. Your your uncle's favorite case I would guess would be Roswell whatnot Yeah that's that's a pretty safe bet yeah. Let's go to John truck driving in Iowa now to get things started Hi John go ahead hey thanks for taking my call and I want to let you know that I've prescience you and your staff have any shows to keep us all in a rush to thank you Jon late night hours well. My 3 daughters are all adults and got families of their own now but when they were young they were all spaced about 3 years apart when we had them we lived in about 120 year old house and each one of them uniquely had their own imaginary play friend at the time that we tear em up stairs from Bob between ages $2.00 and $5.00 so just as one was growing past said stage the other was coming into it and they'd talk and play for a long time and one of them said Who are you talking to there you don't just know now kids are with boyfriends and they told us the name Sarah and then Ok even got a name for their friend didn't think too much about it until some years later we had a foster daughter come in for a few months and she was about 2 and a half or 3 and like the others was up stairs. Playing with their dolls and talking to herself in Arnalds and we asked her who she was talking to and this was some years later and she answered the same thing Sarah. That kind of sent chills down my spine I have to admit I'm a consummate skeptic Yeah but that certainly gave us pause to think about things and the odds of her. Having this communicated to her by our other daughters was negligible I guess I'd like to hear your guests. Thoughts on that and I'd also like to know if he thinks the children are more subject to pull the contact from the Ghost or just how they play into that factor good questions go ahead Paul thanks John Yeah that is a good question I I've always thought that kids might be more susceptible or open for a couple of reasons one kids are naturally naturally more imaginative than most adults the older we get you know the more we're weighed down by bills to pay and all that sort of stuff the kids and I certainly was one of them free flowing imagination all the time so you know I had an imaginary friend when I was a kid too and I lot of my friends did as well. So I think that factors into it a bit not that they imagine these things necessarily but that they're more open to just the possibilities because they don't have all these other things cluttering up their mind the other thing that I did look into and I wrote about did in my book too is the idea of reincarnation because again this what happens to us after we die so reincarnation kind of fascinates me and if you come back if you're reincarnated you know do you carry through some of the experiences from your past life are you getting echoes of the past life that maybe inform in this case John's daughters their current lives who knows but I remember when I was a kid I don't talk about this walk because you know it's one of those things where some of my friends look at me and go You're weird but I remember as a kid you know I would be lying more than once when I was 6789 you know sort of stopped when I hit the double digits I mean lying on a couch or on the floor of my bed and then suddenly I just feel as if I was falling my stomach like from a big like a plane or a cliff or something my stomach would be in the pit of my stomach I could almost in some occasions feel air rushing by me and I was perfectly wide awake and then it would pass it was a truly frightening experience and so I. You know it disappeared as I got older and I often wondered without saying that this is what happened but you know it tweaks my interest was this some sort of past life experience that I was still getting echoes of that slowly faded as I moved into this life more so yeah you know for those reasons and probably a dozen others that I can think of right now I do think kids are more open to it and you know I certainly talk to a lot of kids and some of these you have to be careful when you're dealing with children of course for a lot of reasons but you know if you use it treat them with respect and you treat them in the right way. You know you don't sort of exploit them then there's a lot of interesting stories that they have to tell and I think they might be more open than you know that I am at 50 years old they seem to be very sensitive to the paranormal side of the world that's a good word for it sensitive Yeah actually that's the word I was looking for you you go nuts go to Gail in North Carolina welcome to the program Gail go ahead thank you George and Paul I take my call Paul you know I'm a 50 percent Native American raised by my grandmother and my uncle who taught me their heritage ways and paranormal to things to come to me like the job I have now online a house from an 1819 where they found was developed in a sense and the 2 that I'm in and done I was drawn to this house I should be here for a reason. And company take care taker of his 68 acre farm that's all that's left of the farm from back in the day and that this house is really something. Please if you will when you go to a shaman and you learn the cleansed learn how to protect yourself. The shade. With Sweet Grass. Moon a prayer that will be very helpful my husband was a very big skeptic when we 1st moved to this house and I told him there was something here that's a friend that is Irish a Native American and. I invited her to come and clinch the house the 1st week that I was here and the things that she told me have all come true my husband is not a skeptic anymore. He has seen things fly off the shelves that are 6 and a half foot tall. Of a grandfather clock a piece of ceramic. We now know there's he's also seen our dogs come through after they have passed and like to nominate right. You know just protect yourself. Common sense listen to Cafe and here and my grandmother raising here a lot of people used to go to her when she was dying turn and crying or interesting that you bring that up all every interview a healer. Not specifically I do I have the greatest respect for the traditions and the beliefs of 1st Nations people in fact. I've been to a couple of ceremonies where you know the sage ceremony and and I'm not getting that I can't remember the exact name but they use agents wheat grass and that sort of stuff and I find a very moving and even though their beliefs might not necessarily be my beliefs. Frankly I don't know what price beliefs are so at least you know these other other folks have them I always find a very moving I find a very touching I find it sort of almost inspirational that they've they've held on to their beliefs and culture despite you know what Europeans have done to them for 400 years so but they have this there's no question of the 1st Nations culture as we call them here in Canada have these tremendous oral histories that because generally they didn't write things down the tales were passed from generation to generation orally and as somebody who's studied or research methodology and my graduate degree in history I find this stuff fascinating and so I I help organize the east coast para conference up here in Canada Nova Scotia every year you've got one coming up in August and June we do we have one coming up in August and before when they open the conference every time they bring in 1st nations people and they walk through the entire room with all the conference attendees and they do the smudging with the with the sage and those things. And the 1st time that that they did that to me I said I sort of thought you know is this me finally getting cleansed so I asked the lady afterwards and she said well this would be your 1st step there's a few more that you'll probably need to take given what you've been doing and I said well good you know at least I've made the 1st step but tremendous tremendous respect for their traditions their their heritage and also their belief structure and their own pinnace I think you know they are more open I think to these stories and to these possibilities than I think traditional Anglo-Saxon Western European culture is Paul Kimball with us Winter Light productions dot com is his website and will be starting another new show called on to how can people watch that. If you're in Canada you'll be able to watch it on a network called Eastlink which is a Canadian network that airs across the country Ok if you're in the United States or anywhere else it will eventually show up on Amazon Prime which is where our old show goes cases if you want to watch those cases we could have done a better job sometimes there's about 3 of those episodes. But there you can find it on Amazon Prime It's amazing what technology does Paul we're going to come back and take final calls with you next on Coast to Coast to Coast Web site is now. Great news if you're a coast insider or simply want to enjoy our website on your phone visit. On your. Browser. The most. Heard right here on Talk Radio 680 w c b Baltimore it is been a cold and blustery stretch of weather this week. Finally that big. Has been generating all weather in the setting on away from the u.s. Relaxing here in the overnight. 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Ok Welcome back to calls to calls final segment with Paul Kimball Paul why do you think so many people are interested in the paranormal not only to hear the stories but to maybe participate in them that is my favorite question George and I think the answer is the same reason I'm interested in it because and I think we touched on this a bit earlier and maybe the 1st or 2nd segment but that idea that we all sort of wonder are we travelling through this life alone. Or and I don't just necessarily mean individually alone but as a species so if you want to talk about life on other planets are we alone in the universe kind of thing but also in a more accidental very personal way to ourselves you know are we at the end of the day because we're all in our final breath we all die alone even if you're surrounded by people in your final moments it's just you and whatever might or might not be coming next and I think that's the kind of thing that all I mean it's the one thing as human beings we all have in common no matter what our politics are or religion or race or gender we're all going to wind up in the same situation at the end and so I think it's some point in our lives our attention turns to asking the question what's waiting for us if anything then and I think that's what draws people into all of the things that I would classify as paranormal and I would include religion and spirituality and faith and that sort of the ultimate paranormal thing but I would also include ghosts and I would include things like you know talking about reincarnation and synchronicities and if you want to get into the question of are we alone in the universe I get in you know U.F.O.'s and in space aliens and stuff like that so I think it's always about trying to find out what our relationship is. To whatever the other might or might not be and if there is another and I think that's the most personal sort of quest that any of us can undertake and I you know authors and poets and songwriters have undertaken that quest throughout human history as well often with reference to supernatural or paranormal themes Shakespeare was notorious for doing that kind of thing the 3 which is in Macbeth for instance so you know that's been with us since the beginning of human history and I think it'll be with us to the end of human history it's the one thing that binds us is that question of are we alone either in the universe or are we alone you know when it's all over in terms of where we might or might not be going next fall Hellier the former Canadian Defense Minister is convinced that we are not alone that we've been visited and politically speaking it would be great to get more and more people involved who could come forward and disclose I understand you're seeking a seat in the provincial legislature Yes completely unrelated to us focused or goes not your platform right yeah totally In fact I'm a longtime critic of Paul Hell years I actually saw him speak here in Halifax before Christmas a critic over his usual flow believes or just his other beliefs a little bit from column a a little bit from column b. If you know his political history there's a lot to be critical about Canadians know more than most people do but mostly as u.f.o. Beliefs he falls into what I would call the the far fringes of u.f.o. Belief where for instance. He was he was the minister of defense during the same time the shed Harbor incident right Ok he he has always said he never received any reports he didn't know anything about it when he was in government how can that be . That would be my question so but it was only after that he read as I recall he said he read The Day After Roswell So of course when do we turns which is a very controversial book and that's all I'll say about it and then you know he sort of latched on to some of the fringe your elements of it I prefer the more evidential elements of it I guess that's the kind of thing I can say about Paul Hellyer at the same time as thanking him for his many years of service to my country in the past you know he was he was responsible for building the u.f.o. Landing pad in St Paul Alberta though they actually have a u.f.o. Landing pad there it was built as part of our centennial celebrations and $967.00 when the government was giving money to every town across the country to build something and in St Paul which is where fern Bellville the cattle mutilation investigator lived they built a u.f.o. Landing pad and some of the archives from Q photos the Center for u.f.o. Studies wound up there and I visited there it's quite a it's a cool little attraction so that's you know kind of a pall Hellier even long before he was involved in U.F.O.'s he was sort of involved with U.F.O.'s because he built that u.f.o. Or he was responsible for that you have a landing pad and he even flew out and he opened it up as it were all right let's go to final calls we will go to Allison in Hitchcock Texas on the wild card line Hello Allison go ahead. There. I meant yeah. I knew you had comments done any you had out one on the look it was it was none of this different. And been out come and see me and now. We. Haven't seen any leaked out on the phone Yeah. And it appeared on my windows when on the like other like the demo believe them or like the picture of the guy he he started appearing his on your window while I'm wind Who was he and the n.s.c. . Pink every once in a while in the church also think about their own and. I want to know could you tell me was this. Our Gnome. Well I would say it definitely would be Paul anytime somebody is picture start showing up on my window. I would think there's something weird going on you would think so you know like as with any case or any story. And I know folks sometimes get frustrated with me because I I sort of say I don't know. It's kind of like you win with your show where you say look I just want to give people a platform to talk so I have my own personal experiences and those are the only ones I can sort of really dig into what I like to do though and what as a documentary filmmaker I did for many years and I still do as a politician is you listen to the stories of people tell you and you take them seriously you treat them with respect which unfortunately I don't think a lot of people do and and you say I don't know what happened but something clearly happened to you and that's of interest in what and then I would flip the question back to her to your listener and say well what do you think happened because at the end of the day as as my friend Greg Bishop says it's it might really be a relationship between whatever the paranormal is and you is that right Bishop our shame Greg the show it is it is your same Greg Bishop who I believe managed to get my new order regret request in the 3rd segment so that's the coolest thing that might have ever happened to me as you played New Order's read a statement awesome but you know Gregg talks about this idea of croaked Coke creation between the paranormal so they throw something out so maybe she your listener maybe she saw something and then she interprets it in a way that would be completely different than if it had happened to me so we all sort of get it and then we all take it and run with it in different directions and that's you know that's part of what makes it really interesting too because we as Holly and I did in that jail cell we can have the same things sort of happen to us and have different reactions and different perceptions of what happened and that's that's really interesting let's go to Jeanne in Columbia Missouri 1st time caller Jean thank you for calling go ahead. George thank you for taking my call very well I'm just listening to your show here and one of them maybe throw in a little bit of biblical perspective I am a Creationist and I do believe that we were created by God to have our best interests in mind and in the Bible you know he warns us not to go to mediums or spiritualists because he doesn't want to open that door and I think the reason for that is you know Satan if you believe what the Bible says his 1st lie to Eve was that you would not surely die even though God told her she would if she sand God says in the Bible that the soul that sins that will die Jesus always referred to death as sleep when he was talking about the like Lazarus You know the Bible says that all men live once and then they're judged and this my thought on why we might be saying these things this if the story of sin and Satan is true and he is trying to deceive people there would really be no better way to deceive them than to impersonate a dead relative x. And that happened in my father his brother was run over by a tractor to fairly young age and that night after the funeral he woke up and his brother was standing in his bed and and knowing biblical truth my father just asked to leave in the name of Jesus and it immediately vanished but you know if he had continued an inner course without being who knows where he would have been led that's true it's a good point and some people by the way in terms of you follow g. Paul think that what they're seeing are demonic things in the skies Yeah I've talked to a lot of people who do put that interpretation on it and you know that's the that's the I guess I keep repeating myself I'm sorry that's 6 o'clock here but that's the interesting thing is so many people have different so many differing perspectives on it and none of them can prove that it's true but most of them think it's true to . Them and I think that might actually be the key that it doesn't really matter what it is it matters what you think it is and what it means to you so in that sense it's like a poem you know you can read it I've actually referred to the paranormal as a thought poem more than once in my career and you know this idea that it means different things to different people and I think more important than what it might actually be or not be if it is anything might be what each individual and we've had for I think 4 callers now that probably all have a slightly different spin on it which I find interesting is what they take out of it and how it impacts their lives and does it impact their life and if it is them you know generally speaking I think it's almost always it's been a positive experience even when it's scary I learned something about myself by having those scary experiences I tested myself in ways that I didn't think that that I ever would and so you know even there even with something that's truly frightening to me in the moment it gets me thinking about life after death or about my place in the universe or just about whether I can withstand fear and you know I think that's what I take out of it other people take different things out of it but we're all taking something out of it and I think as Greg would probably agree with me that's what's really important what's going to win in Fresno California not west of the Rockies Good morning Alison. Yes. I have 2 quick questions men think you are taking my cause Also I'm also a joint owner since you were a long time and I thank you from the owner George the 1st question for you you guys are the grounds team my guys have a team of s.t. Games that go to you know like to confirm confirmation you know wise or something I've got to learn to hold and I've got Linda Moulton how is our lead investigator and then our guests are really the investigators say Ok so I'm Ok I'm from Fresno California I'm trying to blow the lid off of this place I'm telling you man there's a lot of things here and I like all Manda things in a style just things walking along to get things going to leave let us know stories so Ok So Paul. Man Ok I've ever been to Fresno California I actually have I've driven through Fresno Unfortunately I didn't get to stay there Ok there's just cases hall Wolf-Man and this place was like every since I was a kid you know going back home again can't being kids they've always been haunted right. So it was it was a mansion house and it was used like as an insane asylum a long time ago so it was on those Commons not that long ago confirmation boomerang is really haunted things air especially in the basement or whatever they were they used to say in the day if I didn't use to clean it. So the question was asked about some of those countries they tore them out of down yeah they demolished things in a oh yeah they did right so my question is. Another question so can we are going to run out of time so let's get this one and go ahead. What would happen to that the state was there and I. Was like I heard from the so those honors whatever give me something very like strong they're going to fix it you have a haunted place Paul it's demolished what happens to all those ghosts and spirits they stay healthy I don't know but I would assume so because let's let's assume that they really are goes and that they do exist I'm just going to take that. Leave the Faith at 6 o'clock in the morning here. I've I've been to locations where there have been buildings that have been demolished or burned in fires and they still have reports of haunted activity continuing long after the buildings are gone so buildings are just structures kind of like churches you know churches are just buildings at the end of the day it's what happens inside the church that matters and I think the same thing is probably true if if haunted places are real and I'm going to go with that for now that that whatever's in there whatever energies there whatever force or whatever spirits are in there you know could survive the demolishing of a building I would think are burning and in a fire and you know I've heard stories of that you know like fields fields haunted fields if you will where there used to be a farmhouse or something there and it's long gone but the ghosts in the spirits people still report are there and are still present this manner had 22 safety violations so they kind of forced the owner who turned it into a haunted house area where people could visit and knocked it down that was it. Well if they had 22 safety violations it was you know maybe even the ghost would want to get out of that I would think so Paul good luck keep in touch with us Ok it's always a pleasure chatting with you thank you George I really enjoyed it and thanks to everyone for calling and it's always great to talk to folks and his website and you can see a lot of information is winter light productions dot com It's linked up for you at coast to coast am dot com And speaking of things don't forget to like us on Facebook that number grows all the time and follow us on Twitter you get some pretty good tweets nothing strange from Danville Auntie birthday boy Tom Dan hisor Lisa Lyon like Sloane who. Stephanie Smith and George Knapp George somewhere out there on coast to coast am We'll see you on our next edition until Is having the rest of the Tory clearance sale if you want to look 15 or 20 years younger now and. The results are amazing Donna from Kingsville.