Transcripts For WCBS 60 Minutes 20150920

And they got caught. Andrew another nfl today update. James the shootout in oklahoma continues. Bill the ravens, taliaferro scores from seven yards out. Its now 3030 with 7 00 to go in the fourth quarter. James back to andrew, steve tasker and Steve Beuerlein. Andrew two teams that steve t. two teams that desperately need a win right there. The ravens, who thought theyd be in a dog fight with rethe raiders to get their first game. Andrew this half, jacksonville is 15 on third downs. The defensive lineman alualu in at fullback. Yeldon. Yeldon is stopped. Leading the charge and its fourth down. Steve t. losing four yards on the play new york way yoovel can go for this one. You see Ndamukong Suh ripping through that line. It was Kelvin Shepard that made that play. Ndamukong suh finishing it off there at the end. Great job by miami defense. Suh stuffed it up in the middle. Off to the outside of that gap. Andrew fifth straight punt for jacksonville. Fourth and 3. Anger kicking to landry. Fair catch at the 7yard line. 3 02 to go. Miami has all three timeouts. For those of you expecting to see 60 minutes, youre watching the nfl on cbs, the game between the dolphins and jaguars. Im Andrew Catalon with Steve Beuerlein and steve tasker. 60 minutes will be seen in its entirety immediately following this egame except on the west coast. [captioning funded by cbs sports division] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. Visit ncicap. Org] steve t. jacksonville with one timeout, all their timeouts gone, selfincomplicted. One with a bad channel, the other with the to keep from getting a delay of game. Steve b. miami has to be careful here, backed up to their own end of the field. Got to at least get one or two first downs. Andrew tannehill is hit, ball is out. Fox fighting for it on the ground. Jared odrick is the one who hit tannehill. Were still waiting for a signal. Steve t. fox did an outstanding job. This ball was baunsing in the end zone. If fox doesnt reach into the end zone and pull that out its a twopoint safety and theyve got to give the ball back to jacksonville. Steve b. fox is the one who gai up the sack. Tannehill has to know better. You cannot sit down there and hold the ball. Fox gave up the sack. Andrew he got it back in. Its the former dolphin, ok odrick who hit tannehill, forced on the 1. What a play by jason fox. Tannehills pass deflected, incomplete. Posluszny was in the area. It was odrick again who made the play. Steve t. we cant glorify fox for doing a smart play. Hes giving up a tip pass here and the sack, that was almost disastrous he has to protect his quarterback and keep odrick from making plays. Steve b. maybe now theyll bring odrick to this side and putting Chris Clemmons on fox. This is a critical down. If im miami an its not there, tell tannehill to get rid of it. Andrew tannehill from his own end zone. Pass caught by stoneburner, short of a first down. Posluszny makes the tackle, that takes us to the twominute warning. Jared odrick the former dolphin with some big players in jags. Trophy talk pumping iron, marcus . Yeah. Im made of iron too you mean bronze. Bronze is technically iron. I think. Killjoy. Trophy talk fueling up with that footlong, marcus . Good, cause i think that spiral of yours has lost a little zip. Oh yeah . member when that thing had some real heat on it ohh. Still got it. Andrew tonight on cbs, 60 minutes with a rare look at pope francis. Followed by madam secretary and c. S. I. Cyber. Nick marshall in, rah shead greene not returning to this one. Marshall from the 32. To the 40. Marshall with a flag coming in is tackled at the 44yard line. Steve t. if theres a penalty on jacksonville thats going to drive gus bradley crazy. If you made a mistake and give up 10 yards here thats inexcusable. Steve b. especially late in the play like that. That flag came in very late. Andrew john parry our referee today. Referee two fouls during the kick. Holding, during the return, number 52, that penalty has been declined. Holding, return team number 55, during the kick, will be enforced from the end of the kick, 0 yards, first and 10. Andrew both against the jaguars, that will back them up. Coming up after the game time permit, the subway postgame show. Coach cowher will have the latest news. Jaguar with only one timeout remaining. Steve t. that cost them 15 yards, its from the point where he caught the punt not from where it was returned. Andrew yeldon next to bortles. Bortles over the middle. Caught by lee. Good for a jacksonville first down to the 42. Steve t. this drive is all about one thing. Protect bortles. Theyre getting guys with separation. If bortles can stay on his feet they can move this football and get in position to win it. Steve b. since he got here last year hes been efficient in the twominute drills. Andrew bortles, threw it behind lewis. Jenkins on the coverage. Dont forget we talked about the rookie kicker from miami, andrew franks. Jason myers is a first year kicker. The reason hes not a rookie is because he played in the Arena Football League for a while last year with san jose and arizona. But hes very much unproven as well. Steve t. he did hit the long one at the end of the first half from 58 yards. Steve b. thats his range. Steve t. that would be his range. Andrew second and 10. Bortles fires. Catch by hurns. Bortles put that in a great shot and hurns makes the grab for 19. Steve t. if he can make the same kick he did in the first half, theyre in field goal range. Steve b. a nice route, super catch and throw by bortles and hurns. Bortles has to know right now he is already technically in field goal range, he doesnt need to get greedy here. Steve t. i bring pressure if im miami. Andrew hurns dropped it, two flags. Steve t. might be a pick play. Steve b. one of them got in the way of the defender and wouldnt allow him to proceed to cover. Steve t. what youll see is is a classic pick play. A lot of time with young receivers they dont know how to do that legally. Referee pass interference, offense, number 11. 10yard penalty, replay first down. Andrew now theyre not in field goal range. Steve t. marqise lee will come down and pick off a defender. Youve got to attempt to make it look like youre in the running into that steve b. the flags are coming in from every. Where jaguars. They had three last week. Abort tols hurns again. Makes the catch. To the 45, out of bounds at the 42yard line. Forced out by brice mccain. 1 06 to go. Steve t. if im miami, i say it again. Pressure bortles. Hes key to this whole thing. When he has time he has the poise and ability to extend the play. Got to get in his face, make him throw the football away or get him on his back. Cant let him get more positive yards because you run the risk of losing the game here. Steve b. its a double edged sword. Theyre not really in field goal range. Maybe his maximum number. Andrew yeldon to the 35. Now if youre miami you have to think about using your timeouts. Steve t. what are you doing . Olivier vernon with a late twohanded chuck after the whistle was blown. Thats a personal foul. Referee after the play, 50. 15yard penalty, automatic first down. Steve t. that is like handing them a chip shot. Steve b. thats complete lack of poise by vernon he got pushed late at the whistle, he didnt like it. Harbor flopped. Its always the retaliator that gets called in a situation like that. Andrew number 50, playing in his 50th nfl game today. Hes got to have more poise than that. Thats the 13th penalty for 112 yards against the dolphins. Now jacksonville up to the 19yard line with 59 seconds remaining. Steve t. now well see pressure from miami. Steve b. and miami will start using timeouts to save time. Andrew yeldon. For the 15. Now miami has to call timeout. They have two remaining. Steve t. all youre thinking if youre the jaguars on offense two hands on the football, dont do anything silly no penalties, no fumbles. Just get these plays down. Well take positive yards if we can get it but we cant do anything to shoot ourselves in the foot. Steve t. joe philbin, since hes become head coach of miami theyre the least penalized team in the nfl. We asked joe about that last night he goes, guys, we bring referees to almost every practice. We watch the penalties we commit during practice. In film. And we even go over the tenden soifs each officiating crew to tell our team what they call the most. Joe philbin preaches penalties and avoiding them. They have done a terrible job today with 13 for over 112 yards. Steve t. you can preach penalty avoidance but you cant and that was an unpoised play by vernon. Andrew second and 7 following the timeout. Back to yeldon he fumbled 10 times in college he gets up to the 9yard line. Miami calls another timeout. Thats very close to a first down. Miami stops the clock with 48 seconds remaining. Steve t. its not going to be a first down but take a quarterback sneak on this one if you can get it. Youre going to put this game away with an extra point or less than an extra point these days. Steve b. talk about gus bradley wasting timeouts, i might waste one here to see if i can get the measurement. If he challenges the spot and they move it forward and he gets the first down, hell keep the timeout plus the game will virtually be over in lieu of the chip shot. Andrew cant challenge inside two minutes. Steve t. i think they should review that. Steve b. if they need to look at it again. Steve t. im constantly calling if challenges in the two minutes and coaches arent able to do that. Drives me crazy. Bernard pierce in at running back on third and one. They give toyota pierce. Pierce trying to push that pile forward. Thats going to depend on the spot. Does look short. Miami has called its final timeout. Lets take another look. Steve t. miami doing whatever they can do to get the ball back. Steve b. i think hes short. Andrew jason myers, 23 years old, out of marist college, earlier today kicked a 58yard field goal, also made a 27 yarder. Im fairly certain when he played for the red foxes back in poughkeepsie he never faced a pressure kick like this one. Last year, miami blocked five kicks two field goals last year. This is from 28 yards. To give jacksonville the lead with 43 seconds to go. Kick is on the way and the kick is good. Jacksonville leads by three. 40 seconds remain. Miami has no timeouts. Jacksonville felt confident enough before the season to trade veteran kicker josh scobee, on august 31 they sent him to pittsburgh for a sixth round draft pick. They believed in junge jason myers, undrafted out of marist, played last year in the Arena Football League. Theyre rewarded with this kick from 28 yards to give jacksonville the lead. Steve t. Walking Around town the last couple of days and talking to local people and fans, that was one of the moves they were most upset about, letting go of scobee who spent his whole career here. I would venture to say that making that 58yarder and that short one here to win the ballgame, or put them in control of the ballgame, might win some of these people over. Andrew 40 seconds left for tannehill. More than enough time even though theyre out of timeouts to get into field goal range. Do you think that 58yarder may be the spot on that 58yarder at the end of the first half . Steve t. that would have made the difference. Andrew mostert will take a knee. No time off the clock. Miami will start at the 20. Tonight on cbs begins with 60 minutes and a rare look at pope francis followed by a new big brother, madam secretary an c. S. I. cyber only on cbs. Steve t. what we need out of tannehill, hes got to get at least 40 yards in 40 seconds. Got to get the ball to the 40yard line of the jaguars in order to have a chance at a field goal. Andrew and has to do it with no timeouts. Tannehill over the middle. Pass is caught by landry. But hes spun down quickly by telvin smith. Again, miami cannot stop the clock. Steve t. you cannot have a lot of those short gains over the middle of the field. Those will eat you away out of this ballgame very, very quickly. Steve b. they will but if youve got a guy like landry, youre not afraid to give him one of those early in the drive so he can make snap off a 25 or 30 yard run in the secondary. The secondary is trying to cover the whole field and theyre backing way off. So there is room underneath. If you can get a guy to break one tackle youll have a big play. Andrew third down and one. 26 seconds to go. Tannehill. Rolling left. And its knocked down. Skuta got his arms all over that one. Fourth down. Steve t. now your mentality is youve got to find a way to get the first down and then get up on the ball and evaluate the situation. Steve b. even if you do, if them out, you do another play just like the one you just did. Then if you can, scramble for that first down or dump it off and line it up and spike it again. Andrew fourth down and 1. Incomplete. Broken up by telvin smith. Steve t. look right here at landry right there. Hes uncovered. If tannehill wants to dump it to him he can get 10 or 15 yards and get out of bounds. Hes totally uncovered. Landry is veryup set at the top. Thats an awareness situation by ryan tannehill. That would have been an idea place to go with that football. Easy throw and catch and out of bounds. Steve b. when youre in that spot you dont think plays or play calls, you think players. First guy im looking for. Andrew telvin smith has incredible spee speed. The jaguars rave about how fast he is he closed quickly on that ball to break it up. Jacksonville, which has last lost 10 straight in the month of september finally comes through. Steve t. how big a win is for for blake bortles, gus bradley and the jaguars, not only to get the win, but fenally winning a close ballgame at home. Andrew jacksonvilles defense held miami to five punts and one turnover on downs in the final six possessions. Credit to gus bradley and that jaguars defense. They win it 2320. Tonight on cbs begins with 60 minutes and a rare look at pope francis, followed by a new big brother, madam secretary and c. S. I. Cyber. So long from jacksonville. Uff been watching the nfl on cbs home of super bowl 50. The jaguars win 2320. Take a look at these bbq trophies best cracked pepper sauce. 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The deal drastically curtails Irans Nuclear program in exchange for the lifting of economic sanctions. Depending on where you stand politically, its either a triumph of global diplomacy, the best available solution, or a blunder of epic proportions. Over the past few months, nearly everyone has weighed in, from president obama and the congress, to republican and democratic president ial candidates to israeli Prime Minister benjamin netanyahu. But not much has been heard from the iranians. With that in mind, we traveled to tehran last week to sit down with iranian president Hassan Rouhani for the first interview he has given to a western News Organization in nearly a year. What do you think of the agreement . Hassan rouhani translated a very difficult agreement to reach, with lots of ups and downs. But its the right path we have chosen. I am happy that we have taken extremely important steps on this issue and are in the process of taking the final steps. Kroft were you surprised by the ferocity of the debate in the United States and the outcome . Rouhani it was predictable. An issue of this significance cannot be resolved without its opponents. One is surprised by the commentaries, and the commentaries are not very pleasant. Some groups and Political Parties may be against it, but the governments of the world, all together, welcomed this deal. Kroft opponents have argued that the u. S. Has given away too much for very little in return from iran agreeing to lift the sanctions on iran in exchange for, what they call, a temporary 15year freeze on nuclear operations, after which iran would be free to resume or begin work on a nuclear bomb, with far more resources than they have now. Rouhani if a country wanted, with the Technical Resources it has, to gain an atomic bomb, this deal would have been a very bad deal for it. Because the deal creates limitations from all sides to getting an atomic bomb. But if a country has been after peaceful technology from the beginning, then it has lost nothing. We wanted this incorrect accusation that iran is after Nuclear Weapons corrected and resolved, and that the goal of iran is peaceful activity. In this deal, we have accepted limitations for a period of time in order to create more trust with the world. Kroft the whole deal requires a leap of faith between two longtime enemies. The iranians have always insisted that their Nuclear Program is peaceful and that a religious fatwah prohibits them from building Nuclear Weapons. But there is little doubt that the iranians know how to build them and have had the wherewithal to do it. Now, they will be required to ship 98 of their enriched uranium out of the country, lock up thousands of centrifuges, close its bombproof enrichment facility at fordow, disable its heavy water reactor at arak, and submit to rigorous international inspections. The opposition here has also been ferocious. The deal has been attacked on state television and in hard line newspapers, and the head of the revolutionary guard has said, we will never accept it. The United States seems to have its hardliners and iran seems to have its hardliners. The opponents say essentially that they think iran has given up too much control over their Nuclear Program to the u. S. And other foreign countries, and to the i. A. E. A. Do you see similarities between the United States and iran in terms of the opposition to this . Rouhani there are similarities. Its natural that opponents always look for the maximum possible outcome. In an agreement, neither achieves the maximum. Both sides must always concede a little bit from the maximum to get an agreement. Therefore, the person who seeks the maximum complains. The result of this agreement benefits everyone, benefits both sides because we have been able to reach an understanding, an agreement, on a very complicated issue at the negotiating table and be able to prevent misunderstandings, and take the First Step Towards trust. Of course, for reaching trust between the u. S. And iran, there is need for a lot of time. Kroft some of the opponents are very powerful. The commander of the revolutionary guards, for example, has condemned the deal. How do you deal with that . Thats an important Political Force in this country. Rouhani its clear that some will be opposed, some will be in favor, will express their opinions. But at the same time, after the agreement is approved by the responsible institutions, everyone will comply with that. The revolutionary guards also, when the deal is approved by responsible institutions, they, too, will respect this agreement. Kroft president rouhanis boss, Supreme Leader ayatolllah ali khamenei, has final say on the final agreement, and has sent it to the Iranian Parliament and the Supreme National Security Council on National Security for a vigorous debate. Publicly, the ayatollah has maintained a hardline stance against the United States, while confidence that the deal will be approved. Rouhani the majority of our people, in opinion polls, have a positive view of the agreement. And usually institutions like the parliament and the Supreme National Security Council are usually not farremoved from Public Opinion and move in that direction. Kroft you have been very temperate in your statements about these negotiations. You have been trying to encourage a sense of good will between the United States and iran, but some of this. Some of the success has been undercut by very harsh statements from both sides. Since the deal, the ayatollah khamanei has endorsed, even praised, the chanting of death to america and death to israel at the friday prayers by demonstrators, and he continues to call the United States the great satan. Do you believe the United States is the great satan . Rouhani the enmity that existed between the United States and iran over the decades, the distance, the disagreements, the lack of trust, will not go away soon. Whats important is which direction we are heading. Are we heading towards amplifying the enmity or decreasing this enmity . I believe we have taken the first steps towards decreasing this enmity. Kroft do you think the United States is the great satan . Rouhani satan, in our religious parlance, is used to refer to that power that tricks others and whose words are not clear words, do not match reality. What i can say is that the u. S. Has made many mistakes in the past regarding iran, and must make up for those mistakes. Kroft im sure you realize that it is difficult for Many Americans to get past the fact that president obama has signed an agreement with a country that to israel. How do you explain this . What are they to make of it . Are they to take it literally . Is this for domestic, internal iranian political consumption . What are americans to make of it, the language . Rouhani this slogan that is chanted is not a slogan against the american people. Our people respect the american people. The iranian people are not looking for war with any country. But at the same time, the policies of the United States have been against the National Interests of iranian people. Its understandable that people will demonstrate sensitivity to this issue. When the people rose up against the shah, the United States aggressively supported the shah until the last moments. In the eightyear war with iraq, the americans supported saddam. People will not forget these things. We cannot forget the past, but be towards the future. Kroft death to america is a very simple concept. Three words, not much room left for interpretation. Not very conciliatory. Do you see the day when that language will not be used . You yourself have encouraged both sides to try and lower the temperature. Rouhani if america puts the enmity aside, if it initiates good will, and if it compensates for the past, the future situation between the United States and iran will change. Kroft the United States has just signed an agreement with iran to lift the sanctions. Is that not a sign of goodwill . Rouhani it hasnt been implemented yet. The lifting of the sanctions must be initiated. Kroft full implementation of the agreement is still months away, and requires that the International Atomic Energy Agency certify that iran has under the deal. Do you think the level of trust between iran and the United States has improved because of this treaty . Rouhani relative to the past, its improved. But this does not mean that all disagreements are resolved, or all the distrust removed. In one case, on one issue, yes, we have managed to overcome the problem. Kroft there has been speculation and hope inside and outside of iran and in the United States that this nuclear deal could be a catalyst for some broader, if limited, cooperation between the two countries where there are mutual interests. Rouhani many areas exist where, in those areas, its possible that common goals or common interests may exist. But what is important is that, in the nuclear agreement, we see how the two sides behave in action. Will create a new environment. Kroft Ayatollah Khamenei has said that there will be no further cooperation beyond the nuclear agreement, but there is already some indirect military coordination between u. S. Air strikes and iranianbacked shiite militias both fighting against isis in iraq. Officially, its being done through the iraqi military. There is also the possibility of future cooperation in syria. You have said that you are willing to sit down with any country, friend or enemy, to discuss the situation in syria in order to stop the bloodshed. What does iran see as a possible, workable, acceptable solution to the situation in syria . Rouhani look, in a county where a large segment of the country has been occupied by terrorists, and there is bloodshed inside the country, millions of people have been displaced, how is it possible that we fight the terrorists of this country without supporting that country . How can we fight the terrorists without the government staying . Of course, after we have fought terrorism and a secure environment is created, then it is time to talk about the constitution or the future regime. To talk and discuss, opposition groups and supporters sit at the table, but during a situation of bloodshed and during an occupation of the country, what options exist . Kroft so far, president rouhani has been the biggest political beneficiary of the agreement between iran and the United States. He is popular with the voters right now, but hes also ruffled some feathers and, no doubt, irritated political rivals. This agreement was a big political victory for you, personally. You were elected president based on the idea that you wanted to open up iran to the outside world, that you wanted to get the sanctions lifted, that you wanted to bring prosperity back to the country, so iran can take its place among the great nations of the world and not be isolated. There are still some things in that agenda that are still unfulfilled freedom of speech, more access to the internet, and personal freedoms. Rouhani i think, relative to the two years ive been in office, i have been successful not 100 of course, but successful. Our relations with other countries have improved. There is more freedom at the universities, lively debates and greater freedom of the press, compared to the past. Of course, there are some issues that are not in control of the government. Kroft two of those issues, human rights and personal freedoms, are in the domain of irans conservative judicial system. Two former president ial candidates have been under house arrest for the past four and a half years, and there are at least three americans imprisoned here. As we sit here speak the. Right now, there is a dual american iranian citizen, a journalist for the washington post, jason rezaian, in prison for more than a year on unspecified charges. There has been talk among leaders in the last few weeks that there might be a Prisoner Exchange. Is there anything you can say to clarify the situation . Rouhani we have iranians who are imprisoned in the United States, iranians who are being pursued, and most of them are being pursued for circumventing the sanctions. And you know that from the beginning, we considered the sanctions to be wrong and we encouraged everyone to circumvent them. We consider all of those prisoners to be innocent, and consider it wrong that they are in prison. Kroft would you. Would you support a Prisoner Exchange . Rouhani i dont particularly like the word exchange, but from a humanitarian perspective, if we can take a step, we must do it. The american side must take its own steps. Kroft if the nuclear deal stays on track and the sanctions are lifted, the iranian treasury will soon begin collecting 100 billion in oil revenues that have been frozen in overseas banks. And president rouhani says iran will be open for business. Rouhani as you know, in iran, we are transferring the economy step by step to the private, nongovernmental sector. Our private sector and the American Private sector can improve the environment. Actually, it will strengthen the nuclear agreement. 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Tt0w tx g 4 ;4 tt0w tx g el 13l pelley as a young man, Jorge Bergoglio was a bouncer at a nightclub, ejecting undesirables. 60 years later, hes still minding the door. But now, as pope francis, he has thrown the Catholic Church open to all, especially the dispossessed, the disbelieving, the wayward, and the wicked. Recently, he announced a welcoming path back to the church for those whove been through divorce and abortion. And hes declared 2016, the year of mercy. What can we expect when the pope comes to visit . Well, we got a preview at a spectacle thats held every wednesday in rome called the general audience. This month, the vatican invited us to have a word with pope francis, and witness the moving experience coming this week to the United States. At first light, wednesdays, st. Peters square prepares for the man that no one saw coming. The first pope from the new world, who had pulled in behind the first papal resignation in 600 years, grabbed his hat, this past week, and went back to work before a crowd of 30,000 or more his 103rd general audience. So far, 15 million have met francis in rome. But dont ask them what to expect, because god only knows. Good idea . No hes a pope of surprises. He is so spontaneous, and it makes people feel wonderful. Pelley few americans know the new pope like ken hackett, u. S. Ambassador to the holy see, latin for holy seat. Hackett first of all, theyre going to see a pastor, and if they dont know what a pastor is, theyre going to learn quickly. Because hes genuine. Hes intelligent. He moves from the heart. Hes somebody who is not afraid. He is about the people who are in need and suffering and going through turmoil in their lives. He is trying to be there with them. Pelley and he will be in the u. S. For the first time in his life washington, new york, philadelphia. Hackett it is such a special moment for so many people, and were going to see that in the United States in all three cities. Pelley those special moments arise because the pope understands what is not obvious. The general audience is not about the pope; its about thousands of burdens, dreams, hopes and regrets hauled into the square to be lifted by a 78 yearold man. David yoder i have never photographed anything like that before, where you had so much front of you. Pelley the emotion is captured by National Geographics david yoder. Yoder its like they dont have any walls when they meet this guy. Its like finding a longlost relative is what i see. Some of them are euphoric. Pelley any moments that surprised you, any time you thought to yourself did i just see that . Yoder all the time. Pelley yoder worked six months, shooting 68,000 images for the magazine and a new book on life at the vatican. Whats happening with this man . Yoder well, pope francis had just blessed him, had just laid his hand on his forehead, and hes. Hes just overcome. He is completely broken down emotionally, the experience was so powerful for him. Pelley what do you see in the popes face . Yoder im sure that he really enjoys it. I think that he pushes it up to the point where he exhausts himself, sometimes. When it comes to meeting people, hell fluctuate between serious and laughing. Its really been interesting to watch. Guillermo karcher translated its his style of life. The style of living each moment. But he has this way, maybe a little latino, a bit south american. Pelley monsignor Guillermo Karcher is a fellow argentinean who is the strong right arm for the man that he has known 23 years. Ask karcher about the best moment, and he remembers the first mass in the square. Karcher he was in the pope mobile, and he hit it and said we must stop, and he got off to bless and embrace a quadriplegic. And i remember that the following day, i asked him how he had realized that, in the middle of that huge crowd, there was someone with such need to receive a caress and a blessing . And he said, i perceive it. And i can assure you, that morning, i took a step backward because i realized im truly in front of someone who is special. Pelley special for his humility. Because francis forsakes what most people desire, he has the power to give them what they need. He turned down the apostolic palace where popes roomed with michelangelo and moved into a vatican hotel. His room 201 is more Sherwin Williams than rafael. He ditched the papal limousine and the traditional red slippers for a blue ford focus and clunky orthopedic shoes. And he works like a man whos running out of time. Karcher he gets up at 4 30 in the morning. From 5 00 to 7 00, he prepares his interior life, with prayer and reflection, his daily homilies. Pelley he gets up at 4 30 in the morning . Karcher yes, hes very regular like that, very disciplined. Pelley and the day ends for him when . Karcher 10 00, 10 30 in the in the evening. Pelley karcher told us he brings the pope the news on a tablet glass, not stone. And francis prefers the phone to email. Karcher many times, he surprises people. Maybe he knows of someone who is suffering or very sick, and he calls them. Many times, they cut him off because they dont believe him. He says, im francis, and they dont believe its the pope. Pelley has he called you . Times. Pelley he says hello, this is pope francis. How are you doing, mr. Mayor . Marino yes. Pelley before Ignazio Marino became mayor of rome, he was a transplant surgeon in pennsylvania. Hell be with the pope in philadelphia. What do you talk about . Marino well, most of the time, we talk about the city. Pelley was the pope offering his assistance to you . Was he calling and saying, mr. Mayor how can we help . Marino oh, he does, he does all the time. Pelley the pope wanted to help the homeless, who also caught the eye of National Geographics david yoder. Francis set up a clinic for the destitute and showers inside the vatican. Wednesday mornings, cleanliness is next to godliness in the 350 yearold square. The piazza is a sundial, pinned at the center by an obelisk that was more than 1,000 years old when jesus was born. On that scale, general audiences practically began yesterday. It was in 1929, when the vatican became a country of its own. Everyone can come to the and hours before the 10 00 start, the determined hustle for front row seats like competitors at a sale after thanksgiving. They find francis selfless in the age of the selfie. Are the ushers trying to keep people back from the pope so that they dont throw their arms around them . Augusto pellegrini translated if everyone wanted a selfie with the pope, the audience would last all day. Its the pope who decides whether to grant a selfie not. Pelley Augusto Pellegrini is dean of the papal ushers, who corral the crowd and grab the gifts which francis hands off left and right. You know, i suspect, like with any new boss, the pope might have given you some advice on how to do your job. Pellegrini he wants the people who are around him not to tie him to protocol so that he may be free to move. He wants as many children as possible. At the beginning, we thought maybe the pope was tired but no, no, he kissed them, caressed them. And so, we learned never to assume the pope is tired, and so to allow a lot of freedom. Pelley but freedom is exactly what worries the man who stands at the right fender of the father. Urs breitenmoser is a sergeant in the 500yearold swiss guard, the popes bodyguards. Urs breitenmoser we cannot be like a wall around him. So, as he is a pastor, he loves to be a pastor, he needs the contact with people. It is very personal, very human, and for us, its an awesome experience. Pelley the guard is the oldest and Smallest Army on earth a force of 110, all swiss, all catholic, all pledged to give their lives. There are guards that you cant miss, and guards that you cant