America needs right now. Now, remember back in 2012, g. O. P. Leaders were begging for governor christie to run. He declined, and since then, hes been saddled with bridgegate, low poll numbers in his home state, and the task of trying to stand out in a field thats so huge it resembles the crowd at a septa subway stop during rush hour. Or the line to get saltwater taffy at the jersey shore. Dom, did his time pass four years ago . Yeah, i think it has, but christie i know, because ive been in the ring with him, literally, you know, when i disagreed over what he did with president obama does have tremendous force, will be a force in the debate if he gets into it, the first couple of debates. But the time has passed, and jeb bush is in there, and thats kind of a form of christie. He was counting on bush not running. Do you see any pathway to the nomination, george . I dont see a pathway for governor christie to the nomination, and i think its evidence i mean, he likes the limelight. I mean, he likes the celebrity. He likes the private jets. And, you know, being governor has lost any fascination for him. Hes been out of the state 40 of the time up to now. And hes now gonna be out 80 of the time. I wouldnt rule him out. You know, as a democrat, i think there is a certain appeal there. First of all, he represents a democratic state. Hes the sitting governor of a democratic state, a republican. He will stand out in this field, compared to rand paul and marco rubio. Hes a guy whos had to put budgets through. Hes had to take on tough issues. Hes articulate. And people some people like that straightforward, bluntspeaking style, and i think that will appeal to certain voters. A lot of people mentioned the debates, jeff, is where he could really shine. Now, you could also have donald trump in his same debate. And the ratings will go through the roof. Well, yeah, but thats one thing that Chris Christie could be really good at. Hes got to hang around. It all gets down to New Hampshire. Right. He basically has a second home in New Hampshire now. Its where the moderates are. Its where he has some appeal. And if he can just hang around and get some and he needs to fundraise like crazy and just hang around so he can, as dom said, get into those debates. Who knows . And then i hate to bring this up but goodness, if a crisis should occur, a la another hurricane, where he can show his leadership and have a renaissance, in essence, then people may forget some of his troubles of recent years. I think the thing that helps him, too, and helps all these guys and why theyre right to run and i would run if i were them the bigger the field is, the bigger the field is, the more will get in. Because its a diminishing percentage you need to stay alive. But most of the people in have some narrow message. Hes running on personality. Hes not running on message. I think thats what people vote on. But hes lost popularity. Hes lost popularity in his own state. His numbers are as low as theyve ever been. And no republicans in his own state. And i dont see a way for him to break through. And even if he wins in New Hampshire, thats not enough to propel him through to the nomination. That would be a leap at this point. Keeps him in. Yeah. Yeah. Now, Governor Scott walker from wisconsin says he will enter the ring as the 15th or maybe by then will be the 19th candidate for the g. O. P. Field. Hes gonna make his announcement on july 13th. This is a guy that i mean look at all them. This is a guy that governor christie was kind of best buds with for a while, and maybe not so much anymore because perhaps theyre trying to go for that same slice of the pie in the g. O. P. Field. What do you think . I think all of this helps hillary. None of these candidates, with the exception of possibly governor bush, have anywhere near and i think even dom would agree with me on this one the stature of secretary clinton with the experience that shes had on the world stage. Theyre midgets compared to her. And theres so many of them. Ive seen the emails, and you talk about midgetry those emails wear your warm socks to people and stuff like that. I think shes got a lot of trouble, and thats why Bernie Sanders is drawing 10,000 people to a stadium. It surprises me. And joe bidens working. Theyre gonna give 20 of the left vote to anybody who ran. The other problem for governor christie is he cant get far enough to the right. His personality wont let him get far enough to the right to win. And you cant win the republican nomination without getting far enough to the right. To your walker point, i interviewed him just about a week ago, and he does not fill up the room. Theres not a charisma type of thing. But hes very skilled with the media very articulate and very able and hes got a great message of accomplishment for conservatives. Three times taking on unions, et cetera, in wisconsin, which is a very blue state. So with conservatives, hes got that. He doesnt have pizzazz, though. He doesnt have charisma. Lets say he becomes the nominee. How does a governor that eliminated collective bargaining win a single Northeastern State or a midwestern state, with maybe the exception of his own . Thats gonna be his problem. Because hell be running against Hillary Clinton, perhaps, who people dont trust or like, either. Let me form a parallel, and i want to talk about joe biden. Let me form a parallel here. Back in 2007, and senator barack obama said, im gonna run for president , remember how people were telling him, you know what . This isnt your time. Its too early. You havent been in the senate long enough. Why dont you wait four years . And thats kind of what governor christie did, didnt he . I think you have a good point. I dont think again, i think to me governor christie was just kind of a fleeting star. Barack obama was a substantive guy that everybody saw as a potential president of the united states. It wasnt a question of whether he was going to be president. It was really a question of when. And he was smart enough to say look, the longer i stay, the more record i get. The more record i get i differ with you on that though. I agree with you that christie was a star. And again, ive been in the ring with all these guys. This guy is incredible on his feet probably the best out there. He truly is. Hes a communicator second to none. Hes a brawler, but hes got a softer side that stuff with his mother and all that that resonates with people. We were taking a look at pictures of Vice President joe biden and some moments he had with his son beau biden, the late attorney general from delaware. Now, biden and christie are both university of delaware grads. Who else is . Me. Oh, okay. Many are still wondering if joe biden will get into the race, and perhaps some may think its premature, given the death of beau, and the family is still mourning. But the wall street journal reported that beau, before he died, told his dad to run. Hunter, his younger brother, told his dad to run. Do you see this happening with joe biden, and do you see this family crisis building into the story of who joe biden is and something that may resonate with voters . You know, i do. I knew beau worked with him at the u. S. Attorneys office and when he ran for attorney general. He was a wonderful man. And i know the Vice President a bit. And i think that kind of emotional appeal might actually make him think about this. On the other hand, hes a rational politician. And you cant make decisions to run for president , let alone to run for anything, based upon just pure emotion. My theory is this back to the christie thing, bobby jindal now why not run . You get tired of being governor. Youre tired of all this. This is your one shot. Whats the downside to running for president if youre joe biden . I dont see a tremendous downside. The downside is that his legacy today is intact to the extent that he damages hillarys ability to be the next president of the united states. I think he gets tarnished. I think he would argue hes giving her a challenge to get her ready. I think thats the problem. For a candidate of joe bidens caliber to get into the race hes got to get in with both feet, which means its gonna be a knockdown, dragthemout battle between he and hillary, which i dont think hes too late to the party to beat her. But he can beat her up. But dont you want to be there just in case the coronation doesnt take place, so to speak . Its not taking place. What if Hillary Clinton stumbles . I mean, she was the frontrunner back in 2008. Inevitable. Right. But when you look at Hillary Clinton, whatever you think of Hillary Clinton, shes gonna have in the Democratic Party, shes gonna have a claim on the womens vote. Shes gonna have a much bigger claim on the minority the black and africanamerican vote than joe biden will have, even though he was Vice President to barack obama. Hillary has a history there. The family has history. So where does he undermine her in the electoral primaries of the Democratic Party . I love how he thinks strategically all the time, by the way, george. He always does. Will rogers said he wasnt a member of any organized party. He was a democrat. But i think people underestimate that joe biden is a loyal democrat, maybe the last of a dying breed, that i think would really take into consideration if i take on hillary, can i really win . Do i damage her and hurt our chances of holding the presidency . I really think that hell think that way. Okay, well, once again, something well see shaken out over the course of many months. The state of pennsylvanias operating without a budget. Governor tom wolf vetoed the legislatures entire republicanbacked plan. And were talking about the whole thing. He vetoed it. This apparently has not happened in more than 40 years in the state of pennsylvania. Now, the g. O. P. Plan held the line on taxes, did not significantly increase education funding. But wolfs budget plan, which the republicans voted down completely, raised many taxes, cut some others, and significantly increased education funding. This could lead to a slowdown. This could lead to a state shutdown outright if pennsylvania runs out of money. George, what do you thinks going on in harrisburg . Whats gonna happen . Well, you know, the governor vetoed the budget, but what we know is that the governor and the legislative leaders met on tuesday or wednesday of this week, right after the governor vetoed the budget. Theyve agreed to have their senior staffs begin to meet early next week to begin to look at the issues that theyre both concerned about, which includes property tax, which includes tax on marcellus shale. So i think that both sides understand. The governor continues to be very popular statewide, so i think both parties understand, both sides understand theyve got to make a move. And the governor has offered compromises on the issues that are important to republicans. So i think well begin to see progress. Well, i think if republicans dont hold the line on this because i believe what wolf his posture was voted 193 to nothing. A lot of democrats voted against the wolf budget. In the house . In the house. Because it was so excessive. So if he compromises and allows pension reform 401 k for teachers, publicemployee unions, and something with the liquor then i think theres a path there. Heres whats gonna happen its a game every year. We meet again, right . There are gonna be compromises. Governor wolf must get the shale tax in some percentage the severance tax on shale. He wants 5 . Hell get 2. 5 . Hell get 3 . He campaigned on that issue. What hes not gonna get is an expansion of the sales tax going to all the different products. There is lobbyists up there galore thatll make sure thats killed, and republicans will not vote for it. Perhaps a slight increase in the sales tax, which has not been increased, except in philadelphia and pittsburgh, since the 1960s. Jeff makes a good point, and we shouldnt forget that tom wolf won a historic victory first time to ever beat an incumbent governor by a huge percentage and he ran very, very clearly on the shale tax and funding for schools. Id hate to carry that bowl of water low turnout. I would put a big asterisk on tom corbett. And the legislature was still heavily republican, and they did well. But youll see something. Youll see something. But they need revenue. You cant philadelphia cant do with 18 million. Republicans understand that, as well. The other schools need it. Therell be liquor modernization. Youll see it come together i think sooner rather than later. Pope francis. Talk about pope francis. We know that hell be here the weekend of september 27th and 28th. Hes gonna hold a sunday afternoon mass on the ben franklin parkway maybe the biggest thing that philadelphias ever seen. Now, the issue of gay marriage is still fresh with the Supreme Court ruling late last month, and archbishop Charles Chaput asked gay activists to not protest the Catholic Churchs stance on homosexuality during the world meeting of families. Mark segal, the founder of the philadelphia gay news, said this to philadelphia magazine they wouldnt come to protest the pope, but if chaput decides to keep insulting the gay community, i would not be surprised if they decide to protest him. So the question is this, guys could this cause tension distraction, or even embarrassment during the world meeting of families in philadelphia . Well, i think it would be a big mistake for the gay activists, because pope francis is somebody that both sides have signed off on. So if theyre protesting and saying its about the archbishop, not him, i dont think that works. Youre protesting while hes here. I think, you know, if it were to happen, and i dont know if it will, the effect would be the opposite. We live in a free country. People are allowed to express their opinions and protest. These are legitimate issues. Now, if it gets personal and it turns into a personal attack obviously thats a bad thing. But i dont think its necessarily bad. Pope francis, what youre saying, is savvy enough to be able to see this issue and try and incorporate it. He already has. Hes a great communicator, unlike in this case, at least chaput, who, in essence, enflamed by his comment, saying, you know, dont protest the catholic church. If he hadnt said that, we might not be talking about it right now. Its interesting, cause i think the pope is going to address this issue while hes in the united states, whether he addresses it here in philadelphia or whether he addresses it in washington. But i think the thing that hes gonna have a bigger impact upon here and is gonna be a problem for republican politicians is cuba. Let me ask you this, dom, real quick, cause were getting to the break here. Pennlive, which provides political news coverage, took a stance on gay marriage, saying its not going to accept or publish letters that are in opposition to gay marriage anymore. And then kind of backtracked. But what do you think about what they did . It was ridiculous. I had the guy on the editor john micek. Nice enough guy, but this just showed the bias thats there. How could a newspaper say i like john a lot, and hes a good journalist, but i thought that was ridiculous. It is. And i just feel the equation that they made that this is the same as racism now, and its settled just because of the Supreme Court on this issue. You can throw abortion in as a comparison to what if someone said something about that. The law is the law, but it doesnt mean youre a racist if you disagree with a certain decision. It doesnt mean youre antisemitic if you disagree with israel on certain issues. That was the equation. It was a terrible equation, and therefore they had to back off. All right. Lets go to a break. Inside story will be right back. Im the parent of a victim of sex trafficking. People need to know that even good kids from good neighborhoods are still vulnerable to this tricked environment where theyre being taken off the street and put into bondage. Philadelphia Police CommissionerCharles Ramsey will begin releasing the names of the officers in policeinvolved shootings. It will happen within 72 hours barring any threat against the officer or the officers family. This is one of the many recommendations from the justice departments report on policing in philadelphia. Jeff, do you support his decision . No. And im not a lawyer. And this is going you know, this is a fewdaysold news is it doesnt seem fair to me that theres not in essence what i would like to say is due process for those. I think there needs to be an investigation. Does the Police Officer in question did he or she was it useful whats the word . Was it okay that they shot their gun . And if it was okay justified. Justified, thank you. Excuse me. Then i dont think its fair because their family could be threatened. They could be on social media. And i dont thats fair to the privacy of that officer in question. We have a lawyer here. Jim, what do you think, legally . I agree with it. And having prosecuted Police Brutality cases as a prosecutor, i think it inflames the community when names arent released who are under investigation, because lets face it. Frequently, if its anybody else, their names are released if theyre under investigation by and large. People are indicted and convicted on the news every night, and theyre never even tried. So lets talk about due process. But it think it does inflame the community, and it makes it look like the police are protecting themselves. And it calls into question, when the names are kept out of the public, that it looks like youre gonna cover this up. And thats the impression in the community. Good move, george . I think. And in 72 hours from an internal investigation, you have a pretty good sense of where this of where this is headed. And the commissioner said and the report says, were going to consider whether there are ramifications, whether there are potential threats, whether theres a concern. I think theyve given themselves i think the challenge is that theyre much more likely to not announce names than theyre likely to announce them. I think itll be very clear when they announce the names publicly. My problem is, its important to the families, but its another one of these symbolic issues. And i think we got to be concerned with outcomes. How do we change the quality of peoples lives . And clearly we do have to make sure that the officers arent threatened. Well, thats the key, and thats why im against it. And thats got to be the key component. Thats the veto. Im fine with this with ramsey as commissioner. But when i look at the prosecutor in baltimore, i wouldnt be fine with someone like that. Ramsey, i think, will have a sensitivity to deal with, are there threats, legitimate, not 72 hours, and all the rest. Otherwise, i get it that we dont want to feel theres a coverup here. But you guys right here investigate to see if there are previous claims and there starts to be that churning. And if there are, if thats what the rationale is, then thatll come out. Im a little angry. [ laughter ]. About our next issue here cause philadelphia has been snubbed. Wallethub released a survey that featured the top cities to celebrate the fourth of july. Right. It named minneapolis, minnesota, as the top place to cheer the fourth. God almighty. Where is philadelphia on this list . The list goes to like 60. Its 43, behind detroit, michigan, plano, texas, and boise, idaho. And just in case you forgot, you dont know your history and i know you do philadelphia is where the fourth of july happened. [ laughter ] the declaration of independence oh, and wait theres a huge, free concert with fireworks here in town. Right. Wawa welcome america celebration. Right so, you know what . Go ahead and discuss. [ laughter ] i told my wife about this one, and her reaction was, well, if youre not interested in history, culture, food, entertainment, music well then, you wouldnt want to come to philly. What the hecks in minnesota, right . Thats what i was thinking of doing, figuring out what theyre doing right. I think it had oakland ahead of us, too. Who is wallethub . Right, right, right. You just gave them all the free publicity in the world what kind of study is this . And what look at their criteria. The cost to attend a show or the price of gas. Its free exactly theyre probably 20yearold entrepreneurs, and now all of a sudden, look at all this publicity were giving them. Theyre wrong, obviously. You cant figure out the methodology. There may be a couple of places in america that have better fourth of july celebrations than philadelphia, but there arent many. I doubt it. And this goes along the lines of this thing that keeps coming up again and again. And its mostly related to sports teams in philadelphia. Everyone assumes that were all a bunch of people that boo people. Oh, you dont want to go their fourth of july. They might boo you. Well, when you put parking wars on nationally and you see people towing cars see, thats what i think. Its something that hangs out there, but youre right. We get that thing from a few bad fans. Were animals here. Is there a perception problem . Yes. I dont think theres any question theres a perception problem. But i think at least that perception within at least the footprint that surrounds philadelphia itself is changing. If i have to read about in an outsidephiladelphia newspaper one more time about snowballs being thrown at santa claus the guy passed away recently. And every time, i say, it was 1968 when this happened. And everyone knows the real story here. He was a bad santa. [ laughter ] exactly. He deserved it. And it was a bad team. Now, wait a minute. This will be out there. Right, right, right. We have a little bit more time. Anyone want to throw in your favorite founding father here with the fourth of july . John adams. Hes very underrated. I always put him up there on my big list of the week, right behind washington. Number two john adams. Anyone else . Ben franklin. I love the quote thats on his grave down on arch street. It says, he took from the sky the lightning and the scepter from tyrants. And might i add sam adams . How about that . This guy is ready for the fourth. [ laughter ] george, whos your favorite . Ben franklin. University of pennsylvania. Im stealing doms. Sam adams, cause the beer is good. Yeah, exactly right. Ill go with ben franklin. But also George Washington because he could have been the king. I mean, he turned down the whole idea of making the presidency almost a monarchy here in this country. But Ben Franklins my favorite. Lets give hamilton some props. Hes coming off the 10 bill. That may not happen. Inside stories of the week coming up. Inside story is presented by temple university. Temple fuels students with academics and opportunities to take charge. Plugged into the city, powered by the world. Temple. Edu takecharge. Inside stories of the week. We start with george. Fall election usually is a coronation for the incumbent for the nominated candidates in both parties. I think this year could be interesting to see if the independent expenditure groups stay active. Andrew stober is out there as an independent candidate. The unions are supporting one of the republicans whos not an incumbent. So, its gonna be very interesting to see what the outcome of the Council Elections will be this year, and whether we get an additional two or three two to the four who have already been elected. Thanks, george. Dom. My inside story is very weighty americas favorite fastfood restaurant. First of all, mcdonalds is in 18th place. Mine i like panera. It tells me its healthful, even though fast food is in 4th. Number one chickfila. And given all the politics and all the stuff thats gone on with chickfila, its remarkable. It tells me something people recognize, though polite, great service. Thats what you get in addition to the food. Theyre closed on sundays too. Exactly right. Thanks, dom. Jim. Matt, with all this controversy over the confederate battle flag, it makes one reflect on our own history here in philadelphia and in our region. Rather than that kind of a symbol, you can go to city hall and see statues of union soldiers. You can see memorials in Fairmount Park and up on the parkway. And on kelly drive, a statue of lincoln signing the emancipation proclamation. So, on the fourth of july weekend, i think we should reflect on what this region did to help save our country. Thanks, jim. Jeff. You know, philadelphias in a great place. Were gonna host the pope. Were gonna host the Democratic National convention. Again we have welcome america, a wonderful fourth of july. But why arent we bidding to host the super bowl . Pittsburgh Just Announced that theyre gonna put in a bid for 2023. You have to bid that far out. We almost bid on the olympics. Right. We tried, actually. Right. Why cant philadelphia . The linc would be wonderful. Philadelphia can do it. Lets host the super bowl, and maybe the eagles will actually get in it. Good idea. Nice job. I hate to bring this up. [ laughs ] remember, it was in north jersey, and it was almost gonna snow. And so, like, well, thats the last time it would never happen to philadelphia. Its not the university of delaware. The game is supposed to be played in cold weather. Exactly. I agree with that. Yes a bunch of men out there. Thats inside story for this week. Hope you had a great fourth of july weekend. Well see you next week. Ill see you monday morning on action news, beginning at. 4 30 a. M. [ laughter ] nicely done. Im nydia han along with eva pilgrim. Coming up next, developing a teenage girl is dead after being stabbed in the neck in hunting park. Were live. 6 people including a firefighter are taken to the hospital at a rental home in ocean city. The perfect end to the holiday weekend, but more storms are moving in this week. Chris has the exclusive accuweather sevenday forecast. Those stories and more next on action news. Lifes morning multitasking. Its multiple ideas for growing families and drawers with many layers to show exactly what you need. Lifes the food that brings us together. And kitchens where every meal is the most important of the day. Good afternoon, it is sunday july 5, im nydia han along with eva pilgrim. Heres some of the stories were working on for you for action news. Family members are speaking out after a teenager is stabbed in hunting park