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But from all indications, she was crazy before. >> brian: right. she basically was accused of shoplifting $1,600. instead of appearing in court, she within to another country, her own country, where she escaped and asked for asylum. >> steve: it sounds like shes the one who radicalized her sons. >> gretchen: i dont think there will be a lot of sympathy for her. in the meantime, were the two suspects and the entire family, for that matter, on the government dole for the entire time that they live...