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And jim mat tis and mark esper. they didnt get us america first policy. >> laura:: you think hes wrong on this. >> i think hes wrong if he supports mccarthy. ill support president trump if he runs for election in 2024 but im not going to back him on this play. >> laura:: are you going to be okay, congressman, would you be okay if theres a deal struck with moderate democrats that give democrats co-control of the committees. youre fine with that? >> absolutely not. that will not happen. theres two...

Jeffries, the democratic minority leader who keeps getting 212 votes. they voted so many times now that hakeem jeffries has now received more votes in history for speaker than nancy pelosi did because theyve gone 11 rounds. >> right. >> you know, im old enough to remember when heavyweight fights went 15 rounds, so maybe well get there today. >> yeah. >> but he has to show progress and get ahead of hakeem jeffries and isolate the last four or five votes and then pick them off one by one. >> i sai...

When they will go individual by individual and start. >> jessica: but the margin for error is so tiny on this right? of the four hard and folks. lauren will never say actually i like kevin mccarthy this will all be fine. right? and it is just such a stark contrast from how it nancy pelosi managed this multiple times before. she had a squad problem, she took care of appearing on the floor, she took care of it behind closed doors before they went down there. hakeem jeffries, this is an incredible ...

If the number of total members are fewer. >> right. >> he needs a lower threshold. >> ogles. >> ogles too. >> thats 14 -- >> now there are six. >> so the 20 has switched to 7. >> theoretically. kevin mccarthy for the first time since this process began might actually get more votes than the democratic leader, hakeem jeffries, who has been at 212 but dont know what democrats are not here right now. >> that could be a critical number also. i keep -- ive been asking sources throughout this process ...

Tonight. i want to be super crystal clear in laying out for the audience, and check one thing. if one person flips and votes mccarthy, it would only take one person voting present? >> heres how that would work, right? were saying with the two more coming back, it gets them to 216. >> and 434 the chamber total. >> yes. and thats the key. 434 voting members. and when theres 434 the magic number is 218, thats 50% plus one. if you pick up one, if youre kevin mccarthy, 217. okay? democrats stay at 21...

216. so what that would look like is 216 mccarthy votes, and 212 jeffries votes. three of these six still voting for jordan or whoever else, and then three of them voting present. if you did that, you wouldnt actually need to pick up an affirmative vote from any of these six holdouts and you could win the speakership. could they get two to vote for mccarthy? could they get three to vote present? and the other scenario would be, could you get one to vote for mccarthy, and one to vote present? bec...

Time. 212. 212. 212. for hakeem jeffries. you look at the republican side and you just see total dysfunction. so in terms of what you present to the country you show the republican party in no way, shape or form fit to govern and hold power. they cant even get the pants on. >> no, they cant. >> it is -- i think it is an unmitigated disaster for the gop. >> it is. james carville, is this democracy being messy as many republicans are saying? it seems to me this is beyond that and the stench of tru...

Opposition. 14 republican rebels folding after four days of pressure and negotiations on ballot number 12. mccarthy still coming up short. not getting the necessary number of votes to become speaker but for the first time in these rounds and rounds and rounds of ballots, it looks as though he will get even more votes than the democratic leader, congressman jeffries so now we try to figure out what exactly is going to happen next and dana bash, i should know, if you look at hakeem jeffries vote s...

It those three are absent, republicans have 219. democrats have 212 in the chamber. that adds up to 431. the magic number there would be 216. meaning that with those three absences in any scent vote, mccar thi now can only afford to have three defections. so while hes made significant progress here, and well see if he continues to make progress with the rest of the names called, keep in mind as you look at this list, to win today with who is in the chamber, he can only have three defections. you...

Donalds, one for donald trump yesterday or voting present. there are 21 republicans who consistently have not been voting for kevin mccarthy. the way the math is going to break down, were told theres one republican who has been supporting mccarthy who is not going to be present today. so that means that if everybody else is there, democrat and republican, that means there would be 433 members in the chamber. 221 of them would be republicans and 212 of them would be democrats. the magic number, i...