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Debt and if you looked under the cover of the third avenue fund you would find they were getting an 11% coupon. thats how much they were making, and that was way out of line with the rest of the group. >> but it did get others in the group in the selloff, momentum here, briefly, and that is that word you often hear, contagion, whether justified or not, it leads to a a a con sandra day oconnor day john. >> the mark was all over the place today. down 150. must have pathed that flat line 100 times ...