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it. we didn't talk about trump's attacks. they don't talk about desantis 's counterattacks. so what they made clear was this. we're not going to boost to. we're not gonna carry the water for you as we for other candidates. but we're not gonna try to step on you. it's up to you to rest of the spared santos wasn't able to do it because he couldn't capture the rest of the right-wing media in the way that trump has. >> that's an interesting analysis. and last night the contest here is that because of that defamation them trump could go on fox news and say rupert murdoch was on the epstein list on live television. that's not true, by the way, to be clear, but he could say that. there are hundred things he could say that would be like per se defamatory because he's donald trump. and they have already paid to send 100 and $50 million for

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statute involving a denial of rights surprised a lot of people that statute has a well-established body of case law in this particular sort of setting. of course not with the former president. with people depriving others of the full extent of their right to vote. that's the sort of violation doj and the special counsel's office will look for here. >> molly, on the politics of all of this year right up house republicans. quote, this particular maga caucus seems completely and moon to shame and common. sends it reminded me of what charles blow wrote in the new york times about desantis. the pettiness is in scaling. >> what might work in a primary what might even work statewide in some states when you take that message and translate it nationally it just doesn't have the same appeal. >> well, i think that trump without the charisma is not that appealing. i don't know when people thought it would be. i mean that's what desantis is

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lockdowns would hurt kids, especially poor kids. >> we can't forget our most vulnerable, and we've created the single largest inequality generator in a generation by having some schools opened, some schools closed. >> reporter: she connected with -- who moved her family from san francisco to denver in early 2021 so she could send her kids to school in person. >> we found a community online. and i found it interesting that she was a teacher that was advocating for in-person school. in san francisco you could go to a bar or a strip club, but i high school student couldn't go to english class. >> the company told npr undermined safety policies and sowed confusion. >> 90% of what i wrote about was playgrounds and schools and there's nothing embarrassing about that. >> there were several active group chat where is the moms shared about desantis. they travelled to each others'

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their bills isn't thinking about pronouns. is it possible that's true? >> oh, i don't think so. i've been down all over florida, and you know what they all say? he helped my buzz open up. he helped my kid goss to school. the media just fixates on the culture war pieces. >> is it possible that you're too online? >> for sure in the beginning but not anymore. do i need to fight with some random online? no. >> i would love to be off twitter, but i feel like there are discussions that need to be had. for all the bad that comes with it, there's also a good. i've connected with all of these like-minded women who are not alt-right demons. they're moms who have been unseen and unheard. >> elle reeve, cnn, dallas. >> our thanks to elle for that. next, a live report in baltimore on the search for a gunman who opened fire on a neighborhood block party. that and the latest on the severely wounded victims and two who did not make it.

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years to turn this around, you don't want him as your president. >> why didn't he do it his first four years? >> that is the sound of the 2024 gop primary. downtown and florida governor ron desantis campaigning in iowa and new hampshire. here is more of what trump said in a fox news town hall about desantis who is right now polling in second place behind him. >> i think the one who is second is going down so much and so rapidly that i don't think he is going to be a second that much longer. he going to be third or fourth. he had a very bad day. he got very angry at the press. you are not allowed to get -- >> a little bit of irony there. he was referring this moment between desantis and a reporter at a campaign event in new hampshire. listen. >> what are you talking about? are you blind? are you blind? >> i am not blind. >> so people are coming up to me talking to me, whatever they want to talk to me about. >> joining us with more on this

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