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Favor of drafting a document directly targeting biden, only the nations second catholic president. joining me now for more on this is a religion reporter with the washington post. shes done great work in looking into this. thank you for being here, michelle. bidens catholic faith is an important part of who he is. what do you think it means for him to have this kind of focus on his faith right now? >> i would love to know. i mean, he doesnt talk -- he shirks away from conflicts with the bishops....

This conversation and that conversation. we dont want to do it now, call the senate back to deal with this now. thats the problem, john. thats the problem the american people are fed up with and now people are starting to pay attention. >> that is where we start with some of our favorite reporters and friend. from "the washington post," phil rucker is back, joyce vance, former u.s. attorney. here at the table rev al sharpton, host of "politicsnation" here on msnbc, and also the president of the ...

Administration. but i would say theres still a sense and i think elise put her finger on it, theres more to this that we dont know. although a remarkable amount did come tumbling out, i think elise is right we know that the president makes big decisions outside of the normal lanes of policy making that were all accustom to and you saw in the bld, where you had regular policy process and it was considered this kind of shocking break from the policy process if one official went in directly to the ...

But there they were outside buckingham palace despite a sign that said no photographs. the "new york times" writing it was the culmination of more than a month of planning by white house officials who have grown accustom to accommodating president trumps children. the times say it was another family opportunity, one im bued with a sense, no matter how warped, of unity. a trumpt biographer telling us this week just as heads surrounded himself with their progeny, he has surrounded himself with his...

Hes praising brexit and will meet with teresa may. what would go wrong there? there are a lot of things that can go wrong. >> thats why a lot of market technicians are hanging on headlines. the one silver lining in this who process is that the markets have become a little bit more, i dont want to say accustoms to the headlines but perhaps, i guess the right way to put it is the markets are not as affected by some of the massive head llis that come out of the white house. we started down 300 some...

Rules than most of of us across the country are accustoms to warrant some scepticism. chris: what do you make about the controversies about the vote counting in arizona and georgia * and the governors race -- and and the governors race there. what do you think about the president questioning the legitimacy of this election. jane: i have seen this movie. i was down. and the count of the absentee ballots took two weeks and i won. this unfortunately is the old and new normal. but these counts have ...

Rules than most of of us across the country are accustoms to warrant some scepticism. chris: what do you make about the controversies about the vote counting in arizona and georgia * and the governors race -- and and the governors race there. what do you think about the president questioning the legitimacy of this election. jane: i have seen this movie. i was down. and the count of the absentee ballots took two weeks and i won. this unfortunately is the old and new normal. but these counts have ...

Of all the presidents closest advisers. >> for more than two years and almost three years now, we have talked about the political sign post that we are all accustom to that donald trump blew passed or ran over or ignored. he got away with it and saying things tho mainstream politicians can get away with. he got away with defining political gravity again and again. what we are seeing now is no one can define legal gravity. politics is more fluid and it is about the disposition of heart and mind a...

More accustom to this kind of disruption. things are quiet in august and washington. i expect theyre going to be noisier. >> one of the tragedies is charlottesville is known anything but being home to one of the great country. part of the conversation, both gentlemen, thank you for staying with us over this break. well take this break, coinciding with the start of the nfl pre-season. the president renews his dispute with pro football players and most dont understand why they are outraged. well t...

A cyberattack or terror attack. >> youre describing now. >> yes. >> youre describing reality. >> i am describing now in terms of a cyberattack. obviously a terror attack is even more chilling. and so, while i dont think that the russia investigation -- most americans think that affects their lives, obviously a terror attack does, and the president is going to have to believe his intel community when they have that kind of information, joe. >> yeah. and i think were all accustom to in washington ...