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His son as a means to help doing that. but in the course of your reporting, did you get any sense of the pace of the investigation in terms of just general flynn and his activities. >> reporter: yes, its -- the investigation seems to really be gaining speed on general flynn. we saw this with paul manafort recently. now were seeing a little more the pace quickening a little bit with general flynn. so it does seem like things are moving more quickly. one interesting thing i found when i asked gene...