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The tort system and extortion system thats out there today in health care. and there are a lot of ways to fix that. but i just went through last night, if you add up what thompson reuters, which looked at all the studies that have been done and combined them in, they say between $625 billion and $850 billion a year of health care dollars are wasted. so it seems to me if cost is the number one thing thats keeping people from getting care, then the efforts of us, as we go after cost, ought to be t...

>> kimberly: its got to be measures richard that make sense and arent arbitrary, right? theres something that makes sense. i think you have to be multifaceted. multifacet add approach. you have to have the rhetori rhetoric -- multifaceted approach. you have to have the rhetoric there. you have to have realtime intelligence being developed. you dont get the information back -- its memorial day. >> dana: also because we know that these people that have committed these -- the self-radicalization, e...