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By the president. and i think they have to continue to dig on this because if he remembers, did he tape it? i dont think so. but theyll probably ask him that question, because he did tape a lot of conversations. i dont believe he taped this one. hes probably regretting it at this point. >> if it happened. >> if it happened, right. >> it is important to remember, i think to your point, jeffrey, this is sort of the one blow thats been landed directly on the president as a result of all of this inv...