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Than done considering the billions of dollars of trade we have. what does the president do when he sits down with president xi at the end of the month. you say a deal cant be worked out. isnt it in their interest to try to get it behind them? >> it doesnt hurt to have a conversation but you have to be realistic. they cannot -- they cannot succeed unless they are cheating. they cant succeed unless they steal technology or open up their markets or compete with american companies. so we will not ge...