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What do you think isis is going to do here? >> right now it seems to be their luxury to do that. no major bombing campaigns. so right now, theyre just watching the russians pick off other opponents which are add vin says of theirs. its not unhelpful. >> 14 years ago americans woke up to al qaeda and woke up to another group called isis. whats the difference between the ambition in those groups? >> in the book i describe the fundamental difference in the