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>> but its a more hopeful tone on both parties. the democrats say now that, yes, we must have tax hikes, or tax something -- tax revenue, and we must have spending cuts. and thats unusual -- >> neil: but theyre quicker at identifying the tax hikes than the spending cuts, and when it comes to republicans, what they offer on spending cuts of their own, dont address defense. although paul ryan has entertained caps. >> people watching the show should realize our deficits grow in both plans, and ryan...