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Natalia veselnitskaya was russian before the meeting took place, nor that she was connected to the russian government. >> any meeting with regard to getting information on your point is something any candidate staff would take. if someone said, i have information about your point, you would take that meeting. >> from the russian government? >> she didnt represent the russian government. shes a private citizen. i dont even know if they knew she was russian at the time. all they had was her name. ...

Intention to meet with russians? they just knew she had a russian name. shes not a representative of the russian government so this is much ado about nothing. >> lets read the e-mail, again, from a guy named rob goldstone to donald trump jr. setting up the meeting. the crown prosecutor of russia offered to provide the trump gain some official documents is that information that would incriminate hillary and her dealings with russia, and would be very useful to your father. he goes on to write, th...

Tower meeting that natalia veselnitskaya would represent the kremlin in the meeting. >> they didnt know she was a representative of the russian government and indeed she is not. this is much ado about nothing. >> reporter: cnn reported that veselnitskaya did have ties to the kremlin at the time of the meeting. part of rudy guilianis defense is that he didnt get dirt on hillary clinton. >> i dont know if they knew she was russian at the time. all they had was her name. >> reporter: an e-mail dona...

To assert any privilege? the first lawyers are overheard at a steak house, shooting the breeze and talking about how they are going to hang it all on don mcgann if it all goes bad. he says, i didnt think it was a good idea in the first place. trump says go talk to mueller, dont you have to do. i dont think it matters, 30 hours. well, he answered a lot of the questions and mcgann has been there ever since doing the work of the president, doing the good work for him. presumably if he didnt feel li...

In their lies they dont know which way is up and its up to the american people to decide whether an administration where they have to decide whether theyre telling the truth or not. this is not the way our government should be working. if hes covering this up, what else is he covering up? >> shermichael, the fact that he said this is much ado about nothing. >> i dont agree with that and most polls, even republicans that support the president, an overwhelming majority of individuals believe the i...

About another subject and it was not pursued at all and any meeting with regard to getting information on your opponent is any candidates staff would take. if someone said i have information about your opponent you would take that meeting. >> from a russian citizen? >> they didnt know she was russian at the time. >> im sure they knew she was russian. >> you asked me did they show an intention to do anything with the russian? all they knew is a woman with a russian name wanted to meet with them. ...

Meeting -- >> which in itself is an attempt at collusion. >> no, its not. >> you just said it. the meeting was intended to get dirt on hillary clinton from a kremlin lawyer. >> no, no. >> that was the intent of the meeting. you just said it. >> that was the original intense -- intent of the meeting and of the not pursued at all. any meeting with regard to getting information on your opponent is something any candidates staff would take. if someone said i have information about your opponent, you...

Representative of the russian government so this was much ado about nothing. the president wasnt even aware of this meeting, and when he found out about it, it was nothing. if this is their case for collusion, good luck, mueller. >> can i get your reaction to this, ben? how much of these appearances by rudy giuliani help the president? >> i dont know how much they help the president. i think, alex, if the people are listening, they should be hurting the president. rudy giuliani has obviously ado...

Phone and they come they wont give of i think that figure officially is about the same amount they ship the festival program is they stick its like a novel its a book and i cording to that there are about three thousand five hundred shows with fifty four thousand performances in these three and a half weeks of the festival but theres always performers who turn up on spec and hope to get a venue or something this illness as well people dont also some say by the way that the whole thing is much to...

And what hes actually supposed to do. so the idea he wouldnt be doing this necessarily behind closed doors is i think a little bit difficult for some people to swallow. now, whether any of that rises to the level of illegality is another question entirely, but certainly hes shown that hes not terribly careful about these, at least by outward appearances. >> and you write today that -- heres the thing. this is a tweet -- this is about the presidents tweet yesterday morning. this is a tweet about ...