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Fathers candidacy. this is according to three people with knowledge of the e-mail. maggie haberman of "the new york times" joins us now by phone. maggie, this is just breaking now. explain what you know and all the details you can. >> sure. i mean theres a lot that we know and theres also a lot that we dont know. what we know is what you just described. we know that before this meeting that has been the subject of stories over the last few days was arranged, that donald trump jr., who was ascend...

Laer yet, and do you plan to request documents from him? >> we will certainly want to have him come before the committee. i dont want to discuss any communications were having with witnesses. they are free to disclose them themselves. well certainly want him to come in. well want everyone connected with this meeting to come in. well want any documents that they may have. plainly as we saw the constantly evolving stories from the presidents son, we cannot rely on any public representations that a...

>> had the committee been in touch with trump jr. or his lawyers and they plan to request documents from him? >> we will certainly want to have him come before the committee. i dont want to discuss communications were having with witnesses. were free to disclose them themselves. well want everyone connected with this meeting to come. in well want any documents that they may have. plainly as we saw the constantly evolving stories from the presidents son, we cannot rely on any public representatio...

So she got the meeting and she talked about what she really wanted to talk about, which was this law that prevent ascertain human rights violators from coming into the united states and has been matched by the russians with a ban on adoptions by u.s. citizens of russian babies. so i think there is no criminal exposure here. if this is the story. again, all the facts, i think we know now, because of donald trump, jr. has issued two statements now -- >> wait a minute. you think because hes issued ...

The initial statement from donald trump said that this meeting was about adoptions and in a subsequent statement on sunday he said that it was indeed, you know, a presentation initially about information about hillary clinton and then it became clear as he was talking to this woman that she didnt have information according to him. but look, the fact that there is an e-mail chain where it was said and its not clear whether goldstone had direct knowledge of any of this, but the fact that there was...

>> when you step back a little bit and look at it, it looks kind of farcical in which donald trump, jr. was conned into holding a meeting with this russian lawyer who had cause to promote that, because of american adoptions of russian children which has been frozen since a dispute between the earlier administration and the russian government. to get him to have such a meeting, she hinted or indicate she had some information on hillary clinton, possibly involving hillary clinton campaign connecti...

Was about adoptions. and then it was, well, it was we brought the campaign manager. significant to me that they invited the manager of the campaign. if this was not a campaign meeting as they originally said, what was paul manafort doing there? the reason the reason were approaching them was precisely because he was the apparent nominee at that point. so were going to want to hear from everyone connected to this. were also going to want to see as referenced in that e-mail whether the presidents ...

Reporting overnight. i think this critical piece before the meeting that you all talked about. mr. trump was informed in an e-mail that the material was part of a russian government effort to aid his fathers candidacy. this is really the first time that we are learning about someone within president trumps then campaigns inner circle. not only meeting with the russians, but being given information that pointed to the russian government. trying to interfere. and intervene in the 2016 race. now, p...

The story represents what we know. we dont know whether there were other e-mail exchanges. we dont know what was said in this meeting. we just know of how this particular original exchange went. >> so, maggie, what makes you and "the new york times" think that this russian lawyer is connected to the kremlin somehow? >> im sorry, alison, can you repeat that? >> how do you know this russian lawyer that don, junior, met with was related to the kremlin? >> this is in the reporting, that she wanted t...

Explanations as to how it all went down. theyt finally got to the one tht makes most sense. it doesnt prove any collusion but it also doesnt look good. i would not want to get a big lawyer to try to defend me. there were three people in the meeting. manafort, jared kushner ande trump jr. none of them happen to remember this until it was presented by thed press? it was two days after president trump had secured the nomination. they were so worried about what might happen at the convention. i unde...