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Trying to cover up what they did with respect to the russians and what they want the american people to believe. >> so much time has passed since we learned about that infamous meeting in trump tower, and inrmation was just trickling out one after another of people involved in the meeting. just to remind people, why would it be necessary to lie about what the meeting was about? if it was russian interests wanting to meet with the trump administration to overturn didn like, that is a much more se...

Upcoming -- trump jr.s upcoming congressional testimony. thats covered by the statute. and its not only foreseeable, its inevitable that there will be an official proceeding that lie is part of a legal -- it was to corruptly persuade and use misleading conduct to influence testimony that is a felony under statutes that apply to everybody, including the president. >> the timeline you mention here is so fascinating. i want to play the sound. so the night before -- here is the timeline. "the new yo...

The white house went into crisis mode, and the president and visers huddling on air force one to craft some sort of explanation. what emerged, youll remember, was a statement purportedly fro don jr. saying the meeting had been primarily about russian adoptions and making no mention eal go of gettdirt hrylinton. trumps lawyer insisted that don jr. on his own had written that misleading statement. the white house later said dad might have helped out, but that the statement was largely don jr.s wor...

About why he was fired, theyre trying to cover up what they did with respect to the russians and what they want the american people to believe. >> so much time has passed since we learned about that infamous meeting in trump tower, and information was just trickling out one after another of people involved in the meeting. just to remind people, why would it be necessary to lie about what the meeting was about? if it was russian interests wanting to meet with the trump administration to overturn ...

Mutual coordination between his cam ain russia when they did meet with the russians at trump tower in the height of the election in june 2016. and of course we know that the events surrounding all of tha were extremely chaotic. trump dined with putin the night before this bombshell story was released by "the new york times," and they talked about adoptions, which of course is code word for sanctions, for u.s. sanctions on russia. and then the very next day, he insisted on dictating this statemen...

>> i want to get back to the timeline. first, jed, your argument. the memo makes it interesting. a private matter cybill the se they use. look, the president can lie to whatever he wants about anything. thats not a legal issue. the president can craft a misleadi stateme. thats a quote, private matter. why do you think that is not true? >> it turns out congress has ering. a statute about witness that statute says whoever corruptly per suedes or engages in misleading conduct with the intent for in...

If mueller decides to go down this road, does it matter? >> no. two things, one these are complicated legal questions you have people on both sides of the aisle, no he cant be subpoenaed. complicated legal questions like this, theyre going to be played out in briefs, in the court, if theyre going to really get decided its going to be in a more substantive way than what giuliani is doing or were doing here. i think that what gets lost in this and this is where i think the strategy comes in, we ha...

Congressional testimony. thats covered by the statute. and its not only foreseeable, its inevitable that there will be an official proceeding that lie is part of a legal -- it was to corruptly persuade and use misleading conduct to influence testimony that is a felony under statutes that apply to everybody, including the president. >> the timeline you mention here is so fascinating. i want to play the sound. so the night before -- here is the timeline. "the new york times" contacts the white hou...

And his inner circle. >> does it matter? if mueller decides to go down this road, does it matter? >> no. two things, one these are complicated legal questions you have people on both sides of the aisle, no he cant be subpoenaed. complicated legal questions like this, theyre going to be played out in briefs, in t, if theyre going to really get decided its going to be in a more substantive way than what giuliani is doing or were doing here. i think that what gets lost in this and this is where i t...

The memo makes it interesting. a private matter cybill the clause they use. look, the president can lie to whatever he wants about anything. thats not a lue. the president can craft a misleading statement. thats a quote, privatmatter. why do you think that is not true? >> it turns out congress has passed a statute about witness tampering. that statute says whoever corruptly per suedes or engages in misleading conduct with the intent for influencing testimony, thats a felony obstruction of justic...