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Ballot for them. >> lisa murkowski figured it out. >> thats a one off deal. >> i understand that. im answering kimberlys point, how do you do it, it will take somebody thats already been elected in some ways. >> youve still got to bring the voters back around to that because 40% doesnt get you across the finish line. >> i always say its hard to be moderate and radical. >> yeah. >> and yet were going to hit this point, kimberly, where people are going to be like, wait a minute, i dont agree with ...

Lisa murkowski figured it out. >> thats a one-off deal. >> i understand. the point, answering kimberlys point. how do you do it? take somebody already elected in ways. >> still have to bring the voters around. 40% doesnt get you across the finish line. >> i always say, its hard to be moderate and radical. >> yeah. >> and yet were going to hit a point, kimberly, where people are going to go, wait a minute. i dont agree with everything on the left and i dont agree, but i want a piece of that and a...