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Forever. my administration is determined to do everything in our power to protect our students, secure our schools, and keep weapons out of the hands of those who pose a threat to themselves and to others. >> harris: that was the president talking about what has happened at santa fe high school, the outside of houston, the area here, in harris county. lets bring in now congressman randy weber, who represents the district in which the school sits. congressman, thank you for being with me. and i j...

Congressman, we have had this person described as a student as well. >> well, thats what i understand, too, again harris, this is unfolding. we are getting a lot of reports. ive been in contact, as i said, with a lot of the local law enforcement officials. some of it is unconfirmed. i heard your report of, i think, 8 of the 10 confirmed fatalities. the santa fe school district police officer was in a really bad way, theyre trying to save that officer right now. so were praying for that officer. ...

Of these cases that we see. >> harris: looking at the scene right now, and we havent had a lot of live video in recent minutes. partially theyre scouring that come bus looking for -- campus looking for explosive devices. we dont want to give anybodys positions away as they try to find the stuff, they are looking for the publics help. im curious to know how many device these found and what, we had it described earlier, what a bobby trap would have looked like. wouldnt that have taken some time to...

Across the country have done it. more people have to do it. it takes resources, time, money. but it can be done. >> harris: one of the congressmen told me they have $63 billion, next week hell talk with the secretary of education to spend some of that on hardening schools as target, resource officers and so on. bob strang, appreciate your time and expertise, thank you. >> thank you, har miss. >> harris: let me tell you how the dagen with this story. with these people, with our hearts now focused...

Suchts, principals, superintendents, school boards, announce were not going to leave our kids defenseless. we are going to defend our schools from crazy people with guns. >> harris: police officers have told me just in a broader sense that ive interviewed, you have to start to treat schools the same way that you would any other target m society. they are soft targets, you arent protecting them like hard targets. >> we have such mass communication, everybody sees everything. theres always been a ...

Not sure you do have that right. we also dont get any help. you sleep in the cold and get frost bite. fingers are falling away. we have to do something different about mental health. >> harris: your nephew used to be the principal until a couple of months ago of santa fe high school. i know that for your family, you grew up just 40 miles from here, this is personal. >> absolutely. >> harris: i appreciate you coming in and talking about it. and bringing us a different side of the story, too. you ...

We may find out that more students as they come forward will say, yeah, i remember him saying this, saying that. theres something haunting me, something that you have said over and over and over again, and we sat here many times, you asked the same question of elected officials what are we doing about it, what are you doing capitol hill. the time has come for committee hearings, for studies and assessments to end. the time for action is now. weve talked about, parents ask me this morning in my o...

Parkland, we knew that the suspect and all of that wasnt allowed to come on campus with a certain kind of a big bag that, sort of thing a lot of information. >> we did. >> harris: but you didnt protect the target, necessarily. although you had school resource officers, unfortunately from the video might not have done much. >> its a shame, a tragedy, but you had an armed officer in illinois yesterday, the day before, who saved a lot of lives. >> harris: yes. >> this officer shot today, i believe ...

Shootings appear to be intentional. thats different from the 31 times that guns have been discharged on campuses for a sundry of other motivations or reasons. seven that we know of. fourth fatal shooting at a school this year. some of the numbers as you know, parkland 17 dead, 12 injured, daunting. not the only one in january. benton, kentucky, marshall county, kentucky. >> my state. >> harris: right. january 23, two dead, 15 injured. >> right. >> harris: high number there. >> its two-fold what ...

Other weapons that were learning about, but a shotgun. what does that do to the body? >> well, you know, one it scatters. a lot of people can be shot with one blast of a shotgun. the pellets penetrate everywhere. you can be shot with 15 bull frets from one blast if theyre close enough, one person could be penetrated 15 times. theyre devastating from a short range. a shotgun can be. we talk about all of this, were going to ban ar-15s. well theyre more high powered and you can shoot more rapidly b...