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People around him, and if you were in the room with him, and you leave the room and he would call bett si devos ditsy devos, and when general kelly left the office he had a nickname, and anybody in his world, because of the small ability to communicate, he would give them derogatory nicknames, and it was just not appropriate. >> was it women specifically or minority specifically or -- did he treat women differently? >> he does treat women differ t differently as evidenced by the lack of appointe...