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I mean, the guy has a business model but a lot of companies are really -- they just dont care if people cant live on their wages. >> the republican argument tends to be small businesses are posed to this. in your story it seems like you found some business people who say the opposite. >> yeah. i mean certainly theres going, if they raise the minimum wage to $10 an hour theres some businesses that will have a lot of trouble with that, especially small businesses. thats true. they do these big agg...