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say that you are the best msnbc host ever created by god. god created you, chris, to be here. >> thank you, michael. ec baldwin should be looking over his shoulder. >> no way. >> i was not lying, actually. that was me being nice. that is "all in" for this evening. the rachel maddow show starts right now. good evening, rachel. >> i don't take it personal at all. >> it was an impression. it was the voice of a certain hyperbolic character. >> i don't mind, doesn't bother me at all, which i'm sure you can tell. thanks, my friend. thanks, michael. and thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. here's the story. in march of this past year there was an explosion in pasadena, texas. pasadena, texas, is about 11 miles outside of houston. there was a big explosion followed by a fire. smoke and flames could be seen for miles around. look at that. the whole neighborhood around this fire and explosion had to be evacuated. even the houston ship channel, the freeway onramp for all american oil, it had to be shut down, the whole ship channel. it was not exactly national news when this happened in pasadena, texas in march. it was a big deal. locally it was a really big deal. >> a plume of smoke and fire at the prsi refinery, serious enough to shut down the washburn tunnel and ship traffic on the channel for a time. serious enough to recommend a neighborhood nearby evacuate. from sky eye's perspective, the area of the refinery where the explosion and then fire happened, an operator in the area was injured. >> that was coverage from the local abc station in houston at the time of this refinery explosion in march. thankfully it was only one person who was hurt in this blast but it was big enough, scary enough, you can see it fr this local coverage. wascary enough that it put a spotlight on that plant and not in a good way. part of what turned up in the local coverage of the aftermath of that explosion and fire was the bad record at that plant. they had a bad safety record. in 2015, 17 plants in and around pasadena, texas, reported on their workplace injuries for the year, almost a third of all the workplace injuries for that year came from that one plant. out of 17 plants who were reporting. after that explosion and that fire in march, the "houston chronicle" further dug in. they found that on the day that explosion happened, that plant was not legally operating. it was -- its permit to operate under the clean air act expired. they were running the plant anyway on the day the plant blew up. all of that bad press, all of that, i'm sure, very unwelcome scrutiny came amidst an even larger overarching scandal, actually an international scandal involving that plant and the company that owns it. you heard that local news clip described as the prsi refinery. it's actually run, its parent company, is a company called petrobras, petrobras bought that refinery from another oil company back in 2006. the interesting thing about them buying it, the scandal about them buying it, is that when they bought it they really, really overpaid. they obviously overpaid, they paid $1.2 billion for that refinery when nobody thought it was worth $1.2 billion. why would a company radically overpay for anything? why would an oil company radically overpay for this refinery plant in pasadena, texas. we'll take one guess. the company in question here, petrobras, it's a state-run company, the government of brazil owns petrobras. that has practical implications. are government owned country. saudia ramco, petrobras, pemex. that comes in very handy for those companies. it's particularly handy for corruption -- i mean efficiency. i mean, think about it, you need policy decision made to clear the way for you to, i don't know, buy an asset somewhere or make some sort of deal? you don't have to bother lobbying for it. if you are the oil company and you are also the government, what are you going to do, lobby yourself? don't bother, you are one in the same, just do it. they all pull in the same direction. having a government-run oil company is also a great way for particular politicians and particular governments to stay in power. that government-run oil company in mexico, again, second-largest company of any kind on that continent, they've been accused of funneling hundreds of millions of dollars back to the ruling party, the governing party back in mexico. and why not? governing party is controlling the oil company, why wouldn't they arrange for the oil company to fund them? it's a nice system if you can get in on it. oil companies, particularly big oil companies, they mint money. if you're in charge of a government that has one of those, i mean, that's a great way to enrich yourself. that's a great way to pay off and reward people for doing what you want. sometimes you can even do it legally with your government-owned oil company. i mean, if you have something as big and rich and rosneft at your disposal where you get to control who's in charge of it and who gets what pieces of it and what that company does, frankly, you could make everybody you know as rich as you want to make them. rosneft becoming a massive cash machine at vladimir putin's dispos disposal, that explains as much as anything how he has held on to power for these past 17 years. you can see why governments, particularly corrupt or kleptocrat i cklept kleptocratic governments, you can see why they might find it handy to have a state-run oil company. you can also see why state-run oil companies are such a source of corrupt power and since state-run oil companies tend to get something approaching monopoly control over oil in these big countries, it's easy to see how all the biggest oil companies on the face of the earth end up being this kind of oil company. end up being these companies that are attached to a government. oil company that is state run. all of the biggest oil companies are earth are state-run companies. all of them. except for one. the biggest non-government owned oil company in the world, the biggest oil company on earth that's not part of one country's government -- well, today their ceo took a giant step toward becoming the secretary of state of our government in the united states. maybe. probably. but maybe. and here's one thing i think it's worth appreciating about why this is happening. exxonmobil is based in texas but obviously and famously they drill for oil all around the world. "wall st journal" did a ve useful profile on exxon a couple days ago that laid this out really nicely. it laid out exxon's global reach, where they are already invested, where they have spent exxon money in the hopes those investments will pay off because they'll be able to get oil out of the ground in those countries. and exxon's interests span the globe. so, for example, papua, new guinea, which is like as far away from here as you can get, righ right? papua new guinea, a very remote country, very inaccessible in terms of its infrastructure. exxon has the rights to drill about 1.1 million acres of land in papua, new guinea. exxon has rights to drill another 1.1 million acres in nigeria. they also have a bunch of rights now in places you might not expect. you wouldn't think of as oil-producing companies, but in the netherlands exxon has the rights to drill about 1.5 million acres. another million and a half acres in australia. in germany, of all places, they have the rights to drill on just under five million acres in germany. in canada they've got a bunch. canada just under seven million acres. they've got rights to drill tons of acreage here in the united states. look at this. this is according to the "wall street journal" this week. exxon has rights to drill on roughly 14 million acres in the united states. that's a lot. that's, like, two marylands, almost two marylands. it's more than two vermonts, though, i did the math. that's a lot of acreage exxon has a right to drill in the united states and look at how much it outpaces all of exxon's other worldwide holdings right now. interesting, right? huge, right? until you see this. yeah. kind of an ah-ha moment, right? that line at the top there? that's exxon's holdings in russia compared to their other holdings all over the world. that's the number of acres they have right to drill in russia. and here's the really, really important part. do you want to know where exxon is not able to drill? they are not able to drill, despite those holdings, they are not able to drill in russia. this is also from the "wall street journal." this is the number of wells exxon was actually able to drill in 2015 in all the places where they've got these international rights. mostly, as you can see, the big dot there, they were able to drill in the united states, they were able to drill lots of wells in canada as well. that's the next-biggest dot there. but look at russia. can you not see it? put on your glasses. it's red and to the left of the united states. look at the number of wells they were actually able to drill in russia in 2015 compared to their drilling rights in that country. you want to know why they can't drill in russia despite the rights they have purchased to drill in russia? the reason they can't freaking drill them, the reason they can't get their money out of their huge investment they've made in that country is because in our country the government is not the same thing as the biggest oil company in our country. in the united states we do not have an integrated oil company and federal government the way they do in brazil and mexico and saudi arabia and kuwait and the way we got all the other biggest oil companies in the world. and exxon can't get its return on its investment. they can't get their money out of russia. right? they can't cash in on what they've invested in russia because the u.s. government made a determination that it was in the national interest, the national security interest of our country to put sanctions on russia that preclude doing that kind of business. when our government made the decision to sanction russia, that really, really cramp it had style of exxon. that really threw a huge wrench in their works because look at their investment in russia compared to other countries around the world in terms of where they have rights to drill. this is how they set themselves up under ceo rex tillerson. under ceo rex tillerson they made a half trillion dollar deal in russia to drill the arctic. it was going to be a partnership with the russian state-owned kremlin-controlled oil company rosneft. half trillion dollar deal. that was going to make exxon and russia and vladimir putin specifically hundreds of millions of dollars. perhaps hundreds of billions of dollars. they signed that deal in 2011. they actually struck oil in the arctic in 2014. just in time for the u.s. government to say "nope, you're out. we're kiboshing the deal, we're putting a halt to all of it because we're putting these sanctions on russia for their behavior." russia loves exxon. exxon partnering with russia's state-run oil company, that's what brought their state-run oil company into the 21st century. that's what made russia's state-run oil company technologically capable. exxon is who taught them how to drill oil in hard-to-reach places because russia's oil is in hard-to-reach places. exxon partnering with russia's state-run oil company made that state-run oil company very effective and very rich. so russia loves exxon. exxon loves russia back because common bet on russia in a huge way under rex tillerson in terms of where they are planning on drilling their oil for the foreseeable decades. what they did under tillerson a few year ago was the biggest oil deal in the history of the world. and it got stopped by a policy decision made by the united states government. exxon needs the united states government to change that policy decision. exxon needs the united states government to change america's position overall about russia. simply so exxon can freaking drill over there. so they can recoup their giant investment in that country which outweighs what they are doing anywhere else in the world. they made a huge bet and they're going to lose it unless they get this change from the u.s. government. this is trillion-dollar math that all depends on the u.s. government getting in line with what exxon needs to do. and so exxon is now on the verge of installing its ceo as the head of foreign policy in the united states. >> so, i think you can probably understand, mr. tillerson, why some of us are very concerned about the president-elect's statements praising vladimir putin's leadership, his intelligence, including after being reminded of his ruthless persecution of political enemies and after receiving compelling information that russia has interfered with our elections. so do you think now is the right time to lift sanctions against russia? >> i think it's important that we keep the status quo until we are able to develop what our approach is going to be. that it will be all part of the approach. >> what do you think the approach is going to be? exxon ceo rex tillerson facing questioning today from new hampshire democratic senator jean jean shaheen. the big political news out of this hearing today was not necessarily the tough questioning that rex tillerson got from democrats. the big political news out of the hearing was the contentious back-and-forth that happened between exxon ceo rex tillerson and a republican senator by the name of marco rubio. the democrats gave tillerson tons of hard questions today but the reason it's so important that he also fought today with republican senator marco rubio is that if a republican decides to vote against tillerson, that conceivably would be enough to stop his nomination. that's the math on the committee, as long as all the other democrats, as long as all the democrats voted no as well, one republican no vote could stop him. >> reporter: have you decided how you're going to vote? did he answer your questions adequately about russia in particular? >> many of his answers were concerning to me. but there's a chance now to submit some questions in writing which we'll do as well. i'll consider everything and read through it and i'll make a decision here very soon. >> reporter: are you leaning one way or another? >> i wouldn't characterize it that way quite yet. it's clear i'm concerned about some of his answers and i recognize the split on the committee and what it would mean so i have to make sure that i'm 100% behind whatever decision i make, because once i make it -- >> reporter: because if you make the decision and vote against him you could stall this nomination. are you prepared to be the one republican to vote no? >> i'm prepared to do what's right. >> if marco rubio does vote no on putting the ceo of exxon in charge of the state department, and if all the democrats on that committee voted no as well, rex tillerson's nomination presumably would be over. and that would be a very dramatic development. it would not be quite as dramatic as the u.s. government merging in a large way with our nation's largest oil company, but it would be pretty dramatic on its own terms. so we've got eyes on that tonight. imagine the lobbying that marco rubio is being subjected to right now as we speak. there were incredibly dramatic developments in that story today. there were dramatic developments today on ethics as well, including the office of government ethics coming out on his own terms and making a pronouncement about the president-elect that nobody saw coming. we also got a health scare in the capitol tonight. one member of congress reportedly collapsing and being taken out of the capitol on a stretcher and being hospitalized. we've got the latest details on that. there's a lot to come tonight. this is not a time to stop paying attention. stay with us. americans - 83% try to eat healthy. yet up 90% fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. let's do more. add one a day men's complete with key nutrients we may need. plus heart-health support with b vitamins. one a day men's in gummies and tablets. it's not just a car... it's your daily retreat. go ahead, spoil yourself. the es and es hybrid. this is the pursuit of perfection. tadirectv now. stream all your entertainment! anywhere! anytime! can we lose the 'all'. there's no cbs and we don't have a ton of sports. anywhere, any... let's lose the 'anywhere, anytime' too. you can't download on-the-go, there's no dvr, yada yada yada. stream some stuff! somewhere! sometimes! you totally nailed that buddy. simple. don't let directv now limit your entertainment. only xfinity gives you more to stream to any screen. breaking news tonight from capitol hill and it's not good news. a congressman collapsed tonight in the capital. this is probably not a congressman you have heard of. he's a first term congressman named john rutherford from florida. he was just sworn in last week to start his first term in congress. you see him on the left with the mustache and red tie. apparently what happened is he was in the republican cloak room, that's the lounge and meeting area for republicans off the house floor, he was in the cloak room tonight and he collapsed. somebody called the authorities, congressman john rutherford was taken out of the capitol on a stretcher and taken to a nearby hospital. his dcampaign manager has been trying to keep people appraised. the campaign manager says congressman rutherford i in stable condition. as of about an hour ago we had word he was being evaluated in the emergency room. we will let you know more as you learn more. obviously everybody in the country is wishing john rutherford of florida a full recovery tonight. much more to come, stay with us. us. >much more to come, stay wit us. >much more to come, stay wit us. much more to come, stay with us. is there an elk in your bed? and voluntary. they say she'll be back to work soon but that's important for senator feinstein. we wish senator feinstein the best as she prefires come back to work. it also happens at a crucial time the other person behind senator feinstein who was notay absent was jeff sessions himself. little known fact, nominees are not required to be present at their confirmation hearings and today was maybe a good day for senator sessions to rearrange the paper clips on his desk instead of being there in the hearing room while this testimony was presented today. >> we were beaten, tear gassed, left bloody, some of us unconscious. some of us had concussions. some of us almost died on that bridge. it doesn't matter how senator sessions may smile, how friendly he may be, how he may speak to you. those two are committed to equal justice and our society wonders whether senator sessions calls for law and order will mean today what it meant in alabama when i was coming up back then. >> congressman john lewis today. he grew up in alabama not far from where jeff sessions is from. he was nearly beaten to death in alabama for marching for voting rights. congressman lewis advocated for a no vote for senator sessions to be attorney general on the basis of what he said was senator session's hostility to voting rights in general and in the south in particular. also testifying today was the national legal director of the american civil liberties union, david cole. this is interesting, the aclu wouldn't usually testify in a confirmation hearing like this but today mr. coal, in additile to taking issue with jeff sessions' record on civil rights, he brought up a little known case that is following senator sessions like a string to a can on it tied to his bumper. in that case, he charged a local company with defrauding its customers and suppliers. his office indicted the company on 222 counts. his office touted the case as being "of the most magnitude that the attorney general's office has undertaken in the last 25 years." case turned out to be a dud, though. the court not only through the case out. the judge in the case raised sharp questions about senator sessions -- now senator sessions and how he handled that case at the time. questions about whether he took the case as a favor to one of his campaign donors, whether he was misusing his office to basically help his campaign donors attack their business competitors using his attorney general's office as their weapon. the judge accused the alabama attorney general's office of "serious and wholesale prosecutor misconduct" while jeff sessions was in charge. "the court finds even having been given every benefit of the doubt, the misconduct of the attorney general, jeff sessions, in this case far surpasses in both extensiveness and measure the totality of any prosecutorial misconduct ever previously presented to or witness bid this court. never seen anything like that. i would not have known about that before david cole testified from the aclu. joining us is david cole, national legal director of the aclu. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> am i right in seeing the aclu wouldn't normally as a matter of course testify at a con dpir mission hearing for a nominee like this? >> it's been decades. we have a long standing policy of neither supporting nor opposing nominees for office and we didn't support or oppose senator sessions, we presented our concerns and our concerns are wide ranging and deep and our position is the senate should not confirm him until it gets satisfactory answers to those concerns. >> so many of the objections that have been raised to senator sessions' nomination and the concerns that have been raised in terms what have the vetting process for him should be like have been about his record on civil rights. you talked about that today but you did also bring up this case that -- i realize it's been discussed and hashed through since he's been nominated but it's not as widely known. i wonder if you brought that up because you're worried that his previous experience as an attorney general at the state level, if that sort of alleged misconduct at the state level was extrapolated to the national level that that could be a particular kind of crisis that we might not be expecting from jeff sessions even as we do look at his civil rights stuff? >> well, absolutely. i think you've got two things to look at with senator sessions. he was a prosecutor for a fairly extensive period of time and how did he exercise that power? and we find that he exercised in the a very, very disturbing way. this case was seen by the judge as the worst case of prosecutorial misconduct he'd ever seen in his life on the bench. steven gillers, a professor of legal ethics at nyu who's been doing this business for 40 years says it's the worst case he's seen in 40 years. so are we now going to give to a person who abused his office in this way on behalf of campaign contributors a case that was completely baseless and all 222 counts were thrown out on prosecutorial misconduct grounds. are we going to give him the most powerful prosecutorial post in the nation? that raises serious questions and they don't just go to his ideology, they go to his exercise of this incredible power. >> david cole, aclu national legal director, appreciate both the magnitude of this decision to make that testimony today but also appreciate you sort of making it a national story. i think a lot of people wouldn't know about this had you not front paged it. thank you for being with us today. >> thank you. much more ahead. a very busy news day, busy news night. stay with us. c'mon in, pop pop! happy birthday! i survived a heart attack. i'm doing all i can to keep from having another one. and i'm taking brilinta. for people who've been hospitalized for a heart attack. i take brilinta with a baby aspirin. no more than one hundred milligrams as it affects how well it works. brilinta helps keep my platelets from sticking together and forming a clot. brilinta reduced the chance of another heart attack. or dying from one. it worked better than plavix. don't stop taking brilinta without talking to your doctor since stopping it too soon increases your risk of clots in your stent, heart attack, stroke, and even death. brilinta may cause bruising or bleeding more easily, or serious, sometimes fatal bleeding. don't take brilinta if you have bleeding, like stomach ulcers, a history of bleeding in the brain, or severe liver problems. tell your doctor about bleeding, new or unexpected shortness of breath, any planned surgery, and all medicines you take. talk to your doctor about brilinta. i'm doing all i can. that includes brilinta. if you can't afford your medication, astra zeneca may be able to help. life... is unpredictable. life is deaths. and births. sickness and health. love and heartbreak. and covered california is there for it all. not just to help keep you well. but to make sure the cost of being unwell doesn't ruin this whole life thing. because it's more than just health care. it's life care. if you're going to run a marathon, you generally do not sprint the whole darn thing. but a marathon getting started at a sprinter's pace, that is basically the story right now in d.c. all day hearings on cabinet nominees yesterday and today and tomorrow. in addition to that the senate at this hour right now is engaged in an extended series of lightning votes on what honest ly are generally grandstanding and meaningless amendments but are also the first votes to repeal obamacare. they're doing this series of a zillion votes. they call it a vote-a-rama, not kidding. this vote-a-rama started three hours ago, it's still going right now. that's a live shot. it's due to keep going until 4:00 a.m. is our latest advice. but somewhere in this combination marathon and sprint is a guest of ours tonight. senator cory booker of new jersey is due to join us tonight live just as soon as he breaks free from the vote-a-rama, senator cory booker coming up. i hope. when you're close to the people you love, does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? 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you knew this was unprecedented. you knew it would put you in the history books and probably attract the ire of a lot of your colleagues, how hard a call was this for you? >> it wasn't that hard of a call. these are issues that have been at a core of my work since i've first gotten to public life, issues of civil rights, issues of equal rights, protecting vulnerable people. i'm here because of strident lawyers who stood up and fought for my rights when it wasn't comfortable or convenient so this was a case with especially with the extreme views where jeff sessions doesn't even line up with the majority of his republican colleagues on things like criminal justice reform this was a case where i thought there was a clear threat to many people in our country and silence in that case is unacceptable. i had to speak up at every opportunity i had. >> you mentioned criminal justice reform there. you also said today if confirmed senator sessions will be required to pursue justice for women, his record indicate he is won't. he will be expected to defend v voting rights but his record indicates he won't. i feel like that's a powerful argument, i feel like the entire confirmation process thus far has been him trying to rebut that, trying to say "i am not who you think i am, you have concerns about me on civil rights and equal protection and discrimination, don't have them, i don't deserve that nomination." have you been at all persuaded by the arguments he has made portraying himself very differently than he's behaved in the senate all these years? >> no, because he has a 40-year career of serving and many levels of law enforcement and as a united states senator. he has openly criticized the department of justice for doing the very things i talked about, criticized them for holding cities accountable for police treatment of citizens, criticized the department of justice -- guidance that was give on the stop bullying against gay and lesbian kids, criticized the department of justice for getting involved as a party to cases taking on states for suppressing votes. so here's somebody who has told us, shown us who he is. his whole career from his days of using his office to try to stop a group of lgbt young people from meeting on a college campus, this has been a consistent person and you have to give him this, for consistency in the things he's been doing and saying for all these years and you can't just somehow declare that you're going to be doing things differently suddenly now that you're up for this position. >> the unspoken rule that you violated today is one of these long-standing traditions of the senate in terms of the way that senators defer to one another and treat one other, the collegiality of that body. one of the consequences of those traditions is that everybody thinks that -- well, not everybody, a lot of people believe that jeff sessions, despite these concerns, that he will be confirmed, that he has almost an unbreachable advantage simply by being a united states senator who is being confirmed with the u.s. senate. if he is confirmed, if the odds are with him, are you worried about retaliation? about him getting his revenge on you, on your constituents or on the democratic conference? >> well, look, that's a profoundly powerful position and my concern is not the well-being of me or other electeds, this is a person that is in a position where he can defend or not or even make the lives more difficult of some of the most vulnerable people in america and so this isn't about what could happen in the realm of politics or even in the realm of my life. this is a real threat to those folks that i got into politics to try to do something for and with and try to make this america real for everybody. so i am -- i have a heaviness, a sadness from the day that donald trump announced this appointment, this has been weighing on me and my heart and i think most people don't understand the power of the justice department. nor do they appreciate how the obama administration through the justice department has been doing extraordinary things on mandatory minimums, on mass incarceration. this has been a great justice department that has been affirming the rights of the marginalized in our country and i think that's about to come to a horrible end and an about-face and it's going to necessitate more people speaking up, standing up, resisting and fighting. >> senator cory booker of new jersey joining us on a very, very busy night in the senate after what was a really remarkable day. senator, thank you, we'll look forward to having you back soon. >> thank you very much, rachel. >> senator cory booker joining us. you saw him there, he was in the u.s. capitol. that explains some of the statuary behind him. as i mentioned, the united states senate is involved in a series of lightning votes on amendments important and not important tonight but those are expected to go until 4:00 in the morning. we'll keep an eye on what happens in washington throughout the evening. stay with us. no sir, no sir, some nincompoop stole all my wool sweaters, smart tv and gaming system. luckily, the geico insurance agency recently helped baa baa with renters insurance. everything stolen was replaced. and the hooligan who lives down the lane was caught selling the stolen goods online. visit geico.com and see how easy it is to switch and save on renters insurance. government ethics, an independent non-partisan office that tries to stop conflicts of interest among high-ranking public officials. the head of that agency is a political appointee but the terms of the director of that office are staggered so stagger. so incoming presidents don't get to replace the head of that office the replace the heads of other offices. the current director of the ethics office started working there under president george w. bush. he became director under president obama. he will be the head of that office until midway through this next presidential term. his name is walter schaub. walter schaub has no reason to fear being thrown out of office by donald trump. donald trump is not supposed to be able to do that. well, today after the incoming president announced that he would not really be divesting from his business interests. walter made a remarkable public statement. he gave his blunt and passionate and patriotic assessment of what trump is offering. >> it's important to understand that the president is now entering a world of public service. he is going to be asking his own appointees to make sacrifices. he is going to be asking our men and women in uniform to risk their lives in conflicts around the world. so no, i don't think divestiture is too high a price to pay to be the president of the united states america. >> you see the lines being drawn now in d.c. we know donald trump on one side and democrats on the other. but this fight over ethics, this fight is something else. this is the incoming president versus ethics. and that fight has only just started apparently. th directv a, stream live tv anywhere data-free. join directv today starting at $35/month. no extra monthly fees. ♪ only xfinity gives you more to stream to any screen. you are the problem. you are the problem. >> can i ask you something? >> no, no. >> out of all of the candidates, name one who had a million dollar judgment against him for hiring -- >> name one. donald trump did. so you like rich people who buy politicians. >> where is your goldman sachs jacket at? >> where is your goldman sachs jacket at? you're losing an argument or don't want to have one, never a bad idea to yell out goldman sachs as an epithet. those pro trump protesters in indiana during the republican primary, they threw goldman sachs as an epithet at ted cruz because that's what donald trump had been doing to ted cruz. look. goldman sachs owns him. he will do anything they demand. he is in bed with wall street. he is funded by goldman sachs. >> he talks about how he is going to get well goldman sachs -- i know the guys at goldman sachs. they have total, total, total control over him. just like they have total control over hillary clinton. they have total. but they have no control, they have no control over donald trump. >> today the trump administration announced its fifth straight high profile hire from goldman sachs. just keeping track. the senior strategist at the white house, goldman sachs. the nominee to be treasury secretary, goldman sachs. the head of the national economic council, the president of goldman sachs. the head of the s.e.c., which is the top cop that polices wall street firms like goldman sachs. that will be a former lawyer for goldman sachs. and now today some new adviser job they created at the white house will be going to another partner at goldman sachs. anybody who told you definitely shouldn't vote for hillary clinton because look, goldman sachs. yeah you got suckered. today the incoming administration made one other big personnel announcement. they announced finally who they have chosen to run the veteran's administration. to the surprise of a lot of people, including apparently the man who was chosen himself. he had no idea it was coming. the nominee who was pickford the job is this guy. his name is david shullkin. he is the undersecretary for health at the v.a. he is there now. he is an obama appointee who is already running health at the v.a. during the campaign, the incoming president of course trashed the v.a. every chance he got, particularly its health care. he called v.a. and v.a. health a fraudulent enterprise. he said it was the most corrupt agency in the united states. he railed how how illegal aliens got better health care than the vets. but now apparently he is going to keep the guy in charge of v.a. health, and he is not only going to keep him on, he is going to put him in charge of the whole v.a. veterans organizations had feared that the trump administration would put somebody in the top of the v.a. who was bent on privatizing it and dismantling the whole agency. some of those groups sound a little bit relieved by this choice. am vets announced that they were pleasantly surprised with this choice. iraq and afghanistan veterans of america said they were optimistic about david shulkin, called him, quote, our best hope among the candidates reported in the media. that said, the pick is not without controversy. not only is he an obama appointee and currently there, he is not a veteran himself. if confirmed, the v.a. would be led by a nonveteran for the first time in its history. still, david shulkin was confirmed unanimously for his current job at the v.a. he is very much involved in running the v.a. right now. and for all those reasons and many others, he is expected to sail to confirmation. we'll of course keep you posted. stay with us. >> yes, we can. >> first of all, how you holding up? 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we'll rush an emergency survival package to help one desperate elderly person for a month. >> harris: power panel, thank you for the great discussion. and we are gonna get set for a call right now. great show with dana live from - [eckstein] call the number on your screen. the battleground state of indiana. i'm harris. here she is. - in ukraine, there's no supper network. they don't have food cards >> dana: welcome to the war or neighbors that come in to help. memorial museum in indianapolis. they're turning to us senate candidates facing off in because they have nowhere else to turn. their final debate in indiana. - [voiceover] your gift is a life line one of the major battleground to help these elderly jewish holocaust survivors, states, as we hit the home stretch in the midterms. hello, everyone. help them to live out their final years i'm dain in rino live in with dignity and love. indianapolis and this is "the daily briefing." call right now. - [eckstein] call the number on your screen. - what i pray is that you won't turn your eyes, but you will look at their suffering president trump is making a campaign blitz around the country. and your heart will be changed. first stop tonight in florida. friday he will be here in the hoosier state. all this as the focus on the - [voiceover] with your gift of just $25, plan to end birth right we can rush an emergency survival package citizenship by executive order. to help one desperate elderly person for a month. john roberts is live on the north lawn. he's always available to us, call right now. even if we're in indiana. john? - [eckstein] call the number on your screen. >> reporter: absolutely. greetings to you in the hoosier state. no question immigration will be a big topic of conversation when the president heads down to ft. meyers tonight. what's really interesting is that a blast from the past is suddenly reared its head in this hundred roads named "park" in the u.s. it's america's most popular street name. battle over ending birth right but allstate agents know that's where the similarity stops. citizenship. take a listen to harry reid from if you're on park street in reno, nevada, 1993 talking about his bill the high winds of the washoe zephyr could damage your siding. which would end birth right citizenship for illegal and that's very different than living on park ave in sheboygan, immigrants. >> if making it easy to be an wisconsin, where ice dams could cause water damage. illegal alien isn't enough, how but no matter what park you live on, one about offering a reward for of 10,000 local allstate agents knows yours. being an illegal immigrant. no sane country would do that. now that you know the truth, right? are you in good hands? guess again. if you break our laws by entering this country without permission and give birth to a child, we reward that child with u.s. citizenship. >> reporter: welsh this morning in a tweet, president trump ♪ i'm going back to indiana applauding harry reid saying, indiana here i come ♪ quote, harry reid, when he was sane, agreed with us on birthed >> dana: welcome back to "the right citizenship to which harry daily briefing" live from the reid said in a terse statement war memorial museum in indiana. in response, in 1993, around the with the senate potentially time donald trump was gobbling hanging in the balance, indiana up tax free inheritance money voters are taking a hard look at tariffs, trade policies and the and driving several companies into bankruptcy i made a economy including farmers and steel worker. my tobin has been taking a look mistake. after i proposed that awful at both communities. bill, my wife said, harry, what what's driving this? are you doing? >> what's driving this is the size of industry. she set me straight. if you ever look at the this president wants to sow northwest part of indiana, you notice the steel plants. hatred instead of unify. it's our number one producer of he can tweet whatever he wants steel in the nation. if you have ever driven through while watching tv but he is indiana, you've noticed, 83% is profoundly wrong. he didn't think he was profoundly wrong when he a farm. proposed that bill. when the president starts the president also getting into imposing policies that impact a back and forth with paul ryan, their bottom line, the steel the speaker of the house, after workers, farmers in the hoosier paul ryan said there's no way state start deciding if they're the president can end birth right citizenship with an going to send the president some support in the senate. executive order. trump administration to allow it needs to go through the more ethanol to be allowed to be amendment process. sold was a boost to indiana >> you cannot end birth right farmers because it creates more demand for corn. the number one consumer of soy citizenship with an amendment. i'm a believer of following the beans is china. plain text of the constitution. tensions over tariffs resulted i think the 14th amendment is in greater uncertainty. >> what we're going through pretty clear. that would involve a very very right now with the tariffs is a lengthy constitutional process. bit of a challenge. it's a bit of a hiccup right >> reporter: to which the president answered in a tweet just a little while ago, quote, now. paul ryan should be focusing on we don't know from one year to the next what those arguments holding the majority rather than will be. >> reporter: farmers want to see giving his opinions on birth disputes with china resolved. right citizenship, something he that means protections for knows nothing about. our new republican majority will aluminum and steel as well as work on this closing the intellectual properties. immigration loopholes and only then do they stand to see securing our border. the white house thinks it does the tariff lifted. have a case, dana, to do this by >> we have drawn a line in the stand but need to get these executive order, focusing in on issues resolved as quickly as the first line of the 14th possible. >> reporter: steel is booming since tariffs were implemented, amendment. but there's so many other people imports are down by 9%. who say, he can't do it through plants are operating at new and executive order. got to be a constitutional adding jobs across the nation. amendment. they may not argue this much for indiana steel workers, that long after tuesday, but they're certainly arguing it now. >> dana: well, as harry reid points out, it has been a debate the past two years. for many decades. financially am doing a lot so that might continue. better. >> i have nor money in my pay john roberts, thank you. check now. >> reporter: so when it comes to so, what is the state of the indiana's neck and neck senate race here in indiana? race, the farmers, with all that let's bring in our panel. uncertainty, are less certain of editor and publisher of indy who they will vote for. they will still examine the polit particulars of the incumbent joe politics.org. donnelly and his republican and a radio host here. challenger mike braun. many steel workers are union and and john zody. loyal democrats. it is great to have you here. however, jamie said the i feel like i look like a genius administration got him more money, more security. ending up in indiana because >> thank you, y'all! this is where it's all coming >> reporter: so he'll try to get down to. let me just show you the real the president another clear politics average. mike braun the republican at republican. >> i'm going to vote with my 43.3%. pocketbook. donnelly, 42.8%. my pocketbook is better under and brentin, there is a the republican administration. >> if you grow a lot of corn libertarian candidate. she's 5.3%. you're happy with the president. this is, ab dual, a true tossup? if you grow soy beans, you want >> yes. this china thing resolved. we did some polling. the steel industry, the president has won a lot of support from a lot of people who mike braun had a lead but it was would have otherwise voted democrat. >> dana: thank you for that report. joining us for more on this is outside the margin of error.n s the president of indiana side of the republican. i think this race is a total jump ball. legislative insight. >> dana: if that is the case in the chief of staff to former the next six days, what will indiana senator dan coats who is make the difference? now director of national president trump will be here friday and monday. barack obama coming in sunday. intelligence. >> i believe this will be a he's here with us. turnout race. you know the state very well. when it comes to balancing these we've seen large voter turnout interests in indiana because the industry is so interesting how do you think the candidates have that was there. done so far? trump hate is a real motivator. >> i think they've done well, i don't think anybody can deny that. dana. we are the ag story, top five then there was the kavanaugh producer of soy beans, pork, the good kind of pork. matter. you see president obama coming. i think farmers don't like you realize how important tariffs, but they like this indiana is to the spectrum. president and they're giving him they must have taken a look at -- >> dana: they trust him? >> they trust him and they're florida and say one visit's giving him an opportunity to play out a strategy here. they all want to confront china enough. he's going to be able to handle and solve these issues. on the manufacturing side, this on his own. there is something special that happens here. when you look at the 2016 steel, auto engines, medical election and how the midwest played a difference in that devices. it's an amazing manufacturing election, it's no wonder they're story here in indiana. those supply chain concerns looking at indiana now. emanating from the companies are >> dana: did you anticipate that even with all of the trump real. but the workers employed in support and indiana voted for those factories, the thousands president trump by 19 or 20 of manufacturing workers in points in 2016. are you pleased that it's this those factories, those are trump supporters. those are people who put trump in office. i think they're willing to give clo close? >> we are. it more time. as tony pointed out, there are a >> dana: what do you see? lot of motivators in politics. >> i think dean is right. we're hearing from the business after what happened in 2016 lot of people have come out. leaders, from the executives more people running for office. more people involved than we have had in a long time. that everything seems to be we're also talking about what okay. we're also hearing from the democrats are for. grass roots. there are concerns. i think in these closing days of you've got a 95% reduction in the campaign, people are telling their stories about issues like exports in august of soy beans healthcare and preexisting to china. conditions. you had a tremendous increase there are 1.1 million people like almost a doubling of that have a preexisting condition. that is a compelling argument exports of pork to mexico from and compelling narrative in january through april. these final days. then starting june and july you >> dana: little tease. you're gonna stay. i'm gonna bring you back and saw it stag nate. we're gonna talk to mike braun when you look at the poll about it. let me ask you about immigration numbers, hoosiers are willing to give the president a chance on as an issue. the trade issues. listen abdul to senator donnelly that's cattywompus what you last night. there was a debate here last think. >> dana: i got to hand it to night. he was talking about you. that's the first time anyone has ever said that on this show. immigration. >> i'm the on person on this you're gonna win a prize. state that voted three times for a border wall. >> we talked about trade here. i voted against sanctuary trade is the top issue in all cities. i have stood for secure borders the tv spots that we're seeing. we're seeing more emphasis on with john mccain when, in 2013, trade here and indiana's most we passed legislation that would have provide an additional manufacturing dependent economy in the country. we're seeing this emphasize on 20,000 board agents to the border. i passed 50 pieces of trade. trade and healthcare. >> dana: you're from indiana. legislation with the republican partner. the president will be here every single time. friday and monday. and mike can even name a single he was talking to the farmers last week. democrat that he would work what did he say? >> he was talking to the with. >> dana: so that final debate farmers. he told them the china thing took place last night. will be resolved. that's not a direct quote. abdul, i believe you were there. he didn't give them a lot of specifics. he said rest assured things will be resolved with china. let me ask you about motivation. senator donnelly has tried to with the steel industry, they're happy overall but they want to basically say, look, i am a see a robust independent steel supporter of the president. industry. they're 79.4% of capacity. how important is this to voters in indiana? >> the further you get from the what they are shooting for is a sustained 80% capacity. border, the more important immigration seems to be. then they'll feel like they've last time i checked, we didn't got the independence they're have people running in from indianapolis, it was the county looking at. almost all of your military below. i always get hesitant when hardware is made of steel. politician start talking about the electrical grid, there's the immigration issue. only one producer that makes the bigger thing joe donnelly does, what he's trying to do, electrical quality steel. not so much to get the trump they want to see more independent so that in the event of a crisis, you're not beholden people to vote for him, he's to someone else. >> dana: i do want to ask you trying to mitigate them for about brett kavanaugh, and the voting against him. confirmation process that took place late august, early september. is that where you started to see sort of walking that fine line. a big split between republicans joe got push back from the more progressive members of his and democrats and republicans kind of coalescing behind mike democratic base. plus for him is he's not a braun because they supported the republican. >> dana: let me go to john. i want to ask you about brett president? >> it was not only a driver, but what you -- how we know that kavanaugh and when he went through and donnelly said i'm that's the case is the change not going to vote for kavanaugh, that came over the donnelly campaign after the kavanaugh did you see then momentum for vote. donnelly has gone so far as to republicans start to kick up? cut an ad in one fell swoop, he >> energy has been high the rails against government run whole time. what joe said, every statement healthcare, embraces trump's he's made, in the debate last border wall and quotes ronald night, they were talking about reagan. that is -- that's quite a feat for a red state democrat. immigration. every point he made is he has that was all in the wake of the been a bipartisan senator. brett kavanaugh vote. he believes and i believe and >> dana: tell me about that. hoosiers believe we need someone how you see it, in terms of in the senate who makes commonsense decisions for the donnelly is quite a moderate people of indiana. person. he didn't put labels on some of looks at an issue, finds person his positions, you would think on the other side of the aisle to work with and as much he's he was a republican. gotten 28 pieces of legislation >> well, sure. signed into law by this if you ask my news service president. joe is about working with colleagues in ohio, illinois, someone across the aisle or as kentucky, they'll tell you the democrats is gonna get the job democrats are totally different done. >> dana: i'll give you the last than the democrats in indiana. >> dana: right. word for this block. what is the motivating factor >> we do not elect liberal democrats in indiana. here now in the last six days? the last one re-elected was in are there any undecided voters left? is this about trying to turn '76. >> dana: '76. people out to the polls? that's what i remember. >> i think there are probably a >> this is a seat, the connolly few undecided voters. seat, the republicans believe when you ask how joe donnelly they have a birth right to. has run his campaign, he said that hoover held from '76 on. they want to get that back. they have essentially felt the democrats have been renting this think of me as a republican. seat from them since 2013. >> dana: we wanted experts on he disagreed with me on the tax indianapolis, indiana politic. we certainly got them. cut and judge kavanaugh. his standard was, i want an fbi ed, dean and mike, thank you for investigation. being here. >> thanks, dana. after the fbi said think he has >> i don't have a preference. a bad temperment. i think those things have led to both of them have done some the close race. >> dana: ten seconds, john. weird things. >> let's talk about the attacks i'll go with my gut when it comes right down to it. campaign which added $2.2 trillion to the deficit. >> dana: indiana voters have a republicans talk about how we tough decision on election day. we'll hear what's on the minds should reduce spending. mike braun supports the tax cut. at the people at the future >> dana: i'm going to have you farmers of america convention in back. indianapolis. i love having you. plus healthcare was the focus of last night's senate debate. thanks but don't go too far away. we'll take a closer look at more from you in a little bit later. what's driving this now, next our coverage from the hoosier state continues. consequential race. we're going to visit the future you'll see them next. liberty mutual accident forgiveness means farmers of america conference in indianapolis to hear what's on the mind of voters there. and up next i'm joined by republican senate candidate mike braun live. they won't hike your rates over one mistake. see, liberty mutual doesn't hold grudges. for drivers with accident forgiveness liberty mutual won't raise their rates because of their first accident. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty ♪ ♪ my love has come along, applebee's new neighborhood pastas. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood. first, it continues to pay paramedics while we're on break. second, it ensures the closest ambulance when you're looking for answers, can respond if you call 9-1-1. it's good to have help. because vote yes on 11. the right information, at the right time, may make all the difference. at humana, we know that's especially true when you're looking for a medicare supplement insurance plan. that's why we're offering seven things every medicare supplement should have. it's yours free just for calling the number on your screen. and when you call, a knowledgeable licensed agent-producer can answer any questions you have and help you choose the plan that's right for you. the call is free and there's no obligation. you see, medicare covers only about 80 percent of your part b medical expenses, the rest is up to you. that's why so many people purchase medicare supplement insurance plans, like those offered by humana. they're designed to help you save money and pay some of the costs medicare doesn't. depending on the medicare supplement plan you select, you could have no deductibles or co-payments for doctor visits, hospital stays, emergency care and more. you can keep the doctors you have now, ones you know and trust, with no referrals needed. plus you can get medical care anywhere in the country, even when you're travelling. with humana, you get a competitive monthly premium and personalized service from a healthcare partner working to make healthcare simpler and easier for you. you can choose from a wide range of standardized plans. each one is designed to work seamlessly with medicare and help save you money. so how do you find the plan that's right for you, one that fits your needs and your budget? 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>> here's what we don't want to grocery stores but they're cheaper for the producers. do. mike braun supports a lawsuit it's a hard life for them. today, today, that would take >> reporter: it's not the only away preexisting conditions issue on their mind. >> we also have kids that don't coverage. that would end the opportunity do education. to not have lifetime caps. trying to teach those kids that may not want to do a four year college but could do this and so that young person who's on an make a good living. >> reporter: election day is indianapolis bus with asthma and less than a week away. their chest is tightening and still, some say they remain they need the inhaler, if he has unswayed. >> i don't have a preference. i think i'll go with my gut when his way, those preexisting it comes right down to it. conditions aren't covered >> reporter: several people tell anymore. me they haven't learned a lot >> dana: you're not the only republican getting this kind of about the candidates so they are attack. what do you say to him? hoping to hear more from them on >> that's where you need to do a wide range of issues including your research. trade, education and jobs. never thought you'd run into a real world entrepreneur that took health insurance companies dana. >> dana: great job. on ten years ago before obama thank you very much. another issue very important to care. voters is health care. i call it the unaffordable care it took center stage at last act. i wanted to make sure from my night's senate debate. let's bring back our panel, employees we had 300 at the time. premiums kept going up 5% to 10% abdul, radio host tony katz, a year. my deduckable is not going to go any higher. john zody. i made it consumer driven. let me put up this poll from fox news. it's been a consistent. health savings account changed the dynamic. we covered preexisting healthcare is the number one issue motivating people to vote. conditions and no cap. >> dana: do you hear about so you see it there. healthcare. preexisting conditions a lot on then reigning in trump economy. democrats winning the house and the campaign trail? >> i do. immigration are below that. it's hard for them showing i did want to play this ad by commercials saying i wouldn't joe donnelly against mike braun and this has to do with his business and health care. back it. they show that as a democratic talking point. just because you are a watch this. >> at mike braun's company, i republican, they think you can sold rv parts, towing parts. say that. i have been out front. two months ago i got really i'd never be for any replacement sick, ended up in the hospital. unless it covers preexisting while i was in the hospital, conditions and no cap on mike braun fired me and coverage. i have done it in my own business and held premiums flat backdated my termination so my insurance had been cancelled. for ten year. when tax reform went through, we there is no such thing as healthcare when it gets taken lowered family costs by another away. $1400. that blows up a democratic that's what mike braun's company did. talking point. that's why i'm gonna win. >> dana: three of you are highly involved in this. >> dana: the other issue we you are observing all of it. talked about is this idea of is this basically what it's come down to? >> in part. immigration and birth right because even in the debate that we saw, the healthcare issue citizenship. came up. >> in regard to birth right joe donnelly went after mike citizenship, that's the 14th braun on preexisting conditions. amendment of our constitution. so how this should be handled is some employees have a $10,000 by the congress. as of right now, the 14th deductible. mike braun went after joe donnelly's vote on obamacare. amendment of the constitution depends on where you sit or says exactly regarding this stand here in indiana. >> dana: tony, do you think this issue. and so i want to see that is a deciding factor for people legislation, make sure it was in indiana? >> what's interesting is how we constitutional and review it have decided to reword the first. >> dana: is that an issue where entire conversation. joe donnelly was the deciding you would agree with senator vote on obama care. donnelly? he will talk about how proud he >> i think on this case, that's was to be the deciding vote to so fresh in terms of the topic, save preexisting conditions. if you caught that word play, what it is though is an you understand what's happening here in indiana. accumulation of frustrations he won't talk about obama care. among hoosiers and americans of if he ever talks about deficits a lack of border security. until we get absolute border and won't talk about obama care, security, you build a wall and but he has changed it to the then you tend to all these preexisting conversation. the entire democratic has issues, including that. because that's where they think they can get the win. it's not that it's bad strategy. whether it's done constitutionally, legislatively. it's clear he's not being i think lindsey graham is going honest with what his vote was to introduce a bill. for. >> dana: obamacare, the >> dana: i did want to bring up affordable care act, is more one other thing getting some popular now today than it was attention. you were there last night. senator donnelly with a little ever in the past. >> the conversation around bit of a debate flub. preexisting conditions has been there for the entire distense of watch this. >> our state director is indian the affordable air act. i worked in congress in 2010. american. but he does an amazing job. it was very much part of the congress there in addition to our director of all constituent many other things. what mike braun won't talk about services, she's is he supports the lawsuit that will take away coverage for african-american. but she does an even more preexisting conditions. he said it in an article in incredible job than you could august. i'll support anything that gets rid of that, meaning the imagine. >> dana: that got some attention. senator donnelly putting out affordable care act. >> dana: earlier on the show he this attention saying i basically said he would not be misspoke. i meant to say and instead of for that. the republicans have been -- but. that would have communicated >> he won't own up to it. what i have tried to do my >> dana: i talked to the driver entire life. that took me from the airport to i promote people of color in my the hotel. campaign and official staff. i said what do you see or hear? this is getting some attention. he said his concern is he hasn't is this something you're willing to give him a pass on. heard either candidate talk >> couple comments on that. about what they would do if they had it happened on the other actually get to washington. side, i think it would be what do you have from people, getting a lot more attention. it was a gaff similar to that frustration about this race? >> one thingly hear is they are just so turned off by the that cost a republican the negativity and blatant attacks. election. i'm going to run on the things this is why you have so many that i have been talking about. people undecided. cost of healthcare, securing the i think it's a matter of, they don't want to vote for either border and people really worried one of them. maybe the libertarian will pick about social security and medicare being there due to our up a vote or two. >> dana: if lucy brenton does chronic budget. >> dana: last question. lot of republicans -- you're a get some votes, who does she take them away from? businessman. >> i don't think she takes away traditional republicans say they are concerned about spending, votes from anybody. the debt is going up. i think she gets votes for is that something you would want to tackle when you get to someone who doesn't want to vote washington? >> sure. for republican or democrat. until you get more people like me who have done it every year of your life to have your business survive. >> people saying a vote for her this idea that you couldn't freeze or cut 1% from a budget hurts mike braun, i don't see that. i spoke with a group of that's been bloated for so many millennials at my studio last year, that would be a piece of cake in the business world. week. they said stop telling me about you notice the president wanted how you're going to associate every agency head to find 5%. yourself with donald trump. no matter how we may differ, >> dana: next budget he said they'll come back with 5%. both have decided associating >> why should the federal with donald trump has been a key government be any different than focus of their campaign. the way any state government tell us about what you are going operates, local government and to do for us. there has not been enough of businesses. >> dana: thank you. that. that's the truth. your home town is in jasper. >> dana: what do you think? you all know i have a dog named >> i think joe donnelly is in every single county in this jasper. thank you very much. we did invite senator joe donnelly to come on. state. they said they appreciated our every county visits it. inquiry but declined. he's talked about what he's done i will have much more from for healthcare, for veterans. indianapolis, including how tariffs are playing on the he's told everybody, i'll agree campaign trail as control of the with donald trump when i think senate could hinge on the hoosier state. plus, city united in grief. he's doing the right thing for more funerals held today in pittsburgh for the victims of the country. the synagogue shooting. he can talk about things he is we'll have a report 37 alright, i brought in ensure max protein... for. >> dana: i have a lightning round question. here we are. i just have one lightning round question. president trump is coming back to indiana. he will be here friday and monday. who will motivate more voters, trump or so pwa -- obama. >> there's no sign of trump. he made that up. [ laughter ] >> dana: okay. what do you think? >> obama. this is already a high energy race for democrats. i think his presence here will help the people. >> dana: i will be doing election night coverage. will you all send me notes to what's happening in indiana? this will be the state to watch. i appreciate so much. >> thank you. >> dana: up next, a red state senate race is tightening. folks there are taking notice. >> one thing you can say about alaska vote, they pay attention. this has been a big story up here. >> dana: you might have missed it, but you won't. dan springer with more on the ...to give you the protein you need governors race from anchorage. with less of the sugar you don't. dan? hey guys. today we're here to talk about trucks. 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>> i think the president's visit was very much a distraction. >> dane arc the republican i think it detracts from our governor's association long ago ability as a neighborhood to go identified alaska as the best chance for picking up a seat. and mourn. >> if he didn't come they would looked like the gop candidate was absolutely cruising to a also have something to say, that he didn't have the decency to victory. then 12 days ago, stunning everybody, the incumbent come. governor, bill walker, dropped >> reporter: the alleged shooter out of the race. again, stunned everyone. appears in court again tomorrow. if convicted he could face the this race turned upside down. walker an independent, who was death penalty. down in the polls in a three-way dana. >> dana: thank you, david lee. contest, decided to quite a few up next, tariffs and trade an days after his lt. governor and running mate resigned over issue dividing indiana voters. inappropriate comments he made to a woman saying he knew he so who comes out ahead? and could it be an exciting could not win. walker threw his support behind factor in the balance of power. come on over. democrat mark baggage, until mike tobin and our political then they had been splitting the panel will join me here at the liberal and moderate vote. indiana war museum for a deeper >> people looking at which one dive on the issues that matter is the right one. here. >> tech: at safelite autoglass, but now, it's changed. there's huge momentum. >> republican state senator mike dunleavy had about a 20-point lead over baggage and walker before walker dropped out. a poll taken shows a dead heat between dunleavy and baggage. it's been turned upside down, dunleavy says he's unphased by the new partnership. >> both of these guys were running to the far left to begin with. they were vying for the same group, the same position, same dplos if i. so we designed our face against -- running against an individual that, would be on the left, right now things are working well. >> complicating matters, walker got out of the race so late that his name is still going to appear on the ballot. are and vote by mail voters, some of them, thousands of them, already cast their ballots before walker dropped out. dane? 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