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Is north korea giving anything up and is the u.s. getting anything for this meeting? >> thats a great question. i guess what we are getting is a toning down of the rhetoric, were in a better place than we were six months ago when the north koreans are launching missiles and conducting underground nuclear tests and we had all this language being exchanged between the two leaders. i guess were getting a toning down of that, a moderation of the rhetoric, which is a good thing. i just hope were goin...

I just hope were going to be eyes wide open on this, i would be surprised if he sum air illy walks into the meeting and says, were giving up all our nuclear weapons and were going to lets you verify it. >> pleasantly surprised, i think we all would. >> the reason it would be so surprising, from my own experience in dealing with the north koreans, the nuclear capability, whatever it is, is there -- they consider their ticket to survival. i believe the reason they -- all of a sudden have this will...