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Mueller could cost the justice department its independence. katie benner who covers the justice department for "new york times." the role that rod rosenstein is playing, there were questions if jeff sessions if rosenstein were to be -- jeff sessions would be able to stay in his position. get us up to speed of where things stand. >> absolutely. rod rosenstein is the number two officials at the justice department, essentially the c.o.o., make the trains run, but the reason why people are so invest...

Income. >> a means test? >> well, no -- >> you said upper end of the income. youre means testing. >> thats what a lot of progressives support. >> but do you support means testing? >> we support reforming social security so that long term its sustainable. >> you just slipped into something thats interesting, which is where some people think you should cut. are you air ware that people that retired with a ton of money shouldnt get the same benefits as somebody who retired on a teachers salary and ...