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Care debate. these unforced errors, these misstatements, insults. it doesnt help you build a coalition in the united states or around the world. >> i want to welcome john meacham to the panel, historian. whats the name of the book again you wrote about jefferson? >> jefferson i wrote "the art of power." jackson, "american lion." >> there it is right there. >> as long as youre a president with a j i write about it. >> lets get back to whats happening now. you guys saw angela merkel today, the two...

Youre president with a j i write about it. >> since i have you, awkwardness between these two people, two of the most powerful in the world. saw the non hand shake in the oval office and was one later. seen meetings. canadian prime minister. different body language. this moment. what happened? >> he doesnt want to be there with her. obviously. and i think he -- theres no trumpian capacity for shame. weve learned that certainly. but hes spent a great deal of time on the campaign trail attacking h...