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Ryan, cassidy hutchinson testified about pat cipollones conversations with people like mark meadows while rioters were storming the capitol. listen to this. >> and i remember pat saying to him something to the effect of the rioters have gotten to the capitol, mark, we need to go down and see the president now. and mark looked up at him and said, he doesnt want to do anything, pat. and pat said something to the effect of, and very clearly, had said this to mark, something to the effect of "mark, ...

Phone and i remember pat saying to him something to the effect of the rioters have gotten to the capitol mark, we need to go down and see the president now. and mark looked up at him and said he doesnt want to do anything, pat. and pat said something to the effect of -- and very clearly said this to mark -- something to the effect of, mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood is going to be on your f-ing hands. this is getting out of control, im going down there. ...

Something to the effect of, mark, something needs to be done, the flood will be on your f-ing hands. >> reporter: the committee is hoping these hearings inspire pat cipollone to come forward. congresswoman liz cheney, a republican, continues to try to make direct appeals to him. she tweeted just this morning asking him to come publicly testify. and that this is in the greater good for him to come forward but so far, hes resistant. well see in the coming weeks. >> great reporting, thank you. lets...

>> as you point out, he is a working lawyer. theres a lot at stake. david, i want to remind everyone, i played a sound bite of cassidy hutchison describing the conversations she had that day, saying dont let trump go to the capitol, because theyre going to throw every charge at us if he goes ahead with that. she also was there when he sort of -- her account sort of came charging in, full of stress to talk to meadows, and here is what she says cipollone said. >> mark, something needs to be done o...

Her or any other witness we have heard from that happened that day, the blame belongs with the former president and the people who attacked us, period. officer harry dunn is "outfront." he confronted rioters that day, many who subjected him to racial slurs, screamed in his face. and you are speaking to me in your personal capacity. so the development here about pat cipollone getting a subpoena to appear. so as you know, officer, cassidy hutchison testified that pat cipollone directly, in a conve...

Pat, he thinks mike deserves it. he doesnt think theyre doing anything wrong. >> and recounted pat cipollones reaction. >> people are going to die. the bloods going to be on your f-ing hands. >> the day after the violence, white house counsel advised him to give a speech condemning the rioters. >> this is your legacy. theres already talks about invoking the 25th amendment. you need this as cover. >> trump wanted to float the idea of pardons for those who broke into the cap tom. according to hutc...

The attorney generals ap interview and had thrown his lunch against the wall. which was causing him to have to clean up so i grabbed a towel and started wiping the ketchup off the wall to help the valet out. >> was this the only instance you were aware of where the president threw dishes? >> its not. there were several times that i was aware of him either throwing dishes or flipping the table cloth. mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please make sure we dont go up to the capitol, cass...