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Conversation. what are you hearing about the likelihood of an interview and about this strategy that were seeing with rudy giuliani, in which as were discussing, there have been contradictions? >> i think the important thing to remember about the strategy is this is a political strategy. it is not a legal strategy. you see the shifting explanations on comey, but also, look, i thought the meeting with don junior didnt happen. thats what the white house was saying several months ago. you see the w...