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we are coming back stronger than ever, manufacturing jobs are coming home. i speed computer chips are getting made right here. america is leading the world in clean energy. there are some who say america is feeling, not to joe biden, he believes our best days are ahead because he believes in the american people. >> those who bet against america learning are learning how wrong they are, it's never been a good bet to bet against america. >> julie chávez rodríguez is the campaign manager for president biden's reelection campaign, previously she was a senior adviser to president biden, and most also a special assistant to president obama. she joins me now. first of all, i am so grateful you are here. you are running a campaign that is a very busy job, and you're moving to delaware. so, thank you for being here with me tonight. so, i want to start with some of the news we learned today. you are very savvy political operator, obviously are running a campaign. i want to get your reaction to the prospect of criminal trial
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time and be patient. you were a credible face of this story from the west wing. and i guess i'm wondering two things. i haven't read your book but i look forward to seeing it. it's reported that you were unhappy in the summer of 2020. i want to know why. and do you think dr. fauci eclipsed your role at the white house in terms of what the public message would be? >> well, i clearly wasn't doing national news after april 2020 until that one time in august. what i was concerned about in the summer was really america learning. like you just described. being very clear to americans what we know, what we don't noe, and what we are giving them the best evidence to put the evidence up. don't just say things to the american people but tell them why. that's how i battled pandemics
ThingsFaceBookSummerHaven-tStoryPatientWest-wingTwoDrMessageTermsbecause you're hon rorarhonorarn use the n-word. >> you and russell are not n-wording it up. >> no! he might be saying it to me, but i'm like, um. so this notion that because you're accepted in the black community, it's okay to use the n-word. this word is wrong. richie incognito said about martin is wrong. i would never, never use that word. it's a nasty word coming out of the mouth of a white person. and the notion that it's acceptable, i don't buy it. >> do you buy that locker room culture? because sometimes things are said in the intimacy of workplaces that sound kind of special if they are just taken out. is that what's going on here? >> i think there's two things going on here. one is, i've been saying this from the very beginning with all of this, as the nfl has been exposed and this culture has been exposed. there's a certain element of america learning how the sausage is made, right? we don't want to know how the sausage is made. we want our ugly, nasty,
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