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And im, like, "i wasnt. you did this. get away from me." >> he was saying that the police were saying you were involved? >> and i was, like, "okay." you know, "liar, " and he was, like, "i didnt, i didnt." >> but while both linda and the police were convinced gil was behind toms death, investigators had no solid evidence. that grainy video didnt conclusively put him at the scene and they couldnt prove the sedative found in toms system came from gils office. the district attorney told his chief i...

Thought, but almost a year later, it became crucial to the case. >> we got a dna report back from the lab that indicated there was an unknown males dna on the inside of the belt flap of mr. kolman near the belt buckle. >> reporter: did you test this dna against gilberto nunez? >> yes. it was -- >> reporter: was there a match? >> not -- it was not his. >> reporter: no match? >> no match. >> reporter: where do you go from there? i mean, that is a -- >> thats a show-stopper. nothing moves in this i...

And they considered another possibility that the dna belonged to an accomplice. >> we were also trying to get samples from people we had identified that were close to nunez. thats a little trickier -- because you just cant walk up and ask for the dna. we call it cast-off dna. and you would conduct a surveillance of those individuals and wait for them to discard an item that would most likely have their dna and then you collect that. >> reporter: what kind of items did you collect? i think there ...

And hes, like, "theyre tryin to pin this on me and they say you were involved." and im, like, "i wasnt. you did this. get away from me." >> reporter: he was saying that the police were saying you were involved? >> and i was, like, "okay." you know, "liar," and he was, like, "i didnt, i didnt." >> referee:. >> reporter: but while both linda and the police were convinced gil was behind toms death, investigators had no solid evidence. that grainy video didnt conclusively put him at the scene and th...

>> we were angry. we were sad. but you know, you -- weve lost a son. nothins gonna change that. but we just wanted answers. >> reporter: investigators wanted answers too. but when the d-n-a results came back, a new question was at the center of the case. >> that was not only important, that was a showstopper. coming up -- the new evidence. >> there were there was unknown dna on the belt flap. >> would it clear gil? >> its not possible he would do anything of that nature. >> when the good husba...

>> reporter: but the unidentified dna was their biggest challenge. investigators gathered the brightest minds from the state crime lab to ask for advice. >> and one of them said, "have you checked the autopsies that were done before?" >> reporter: before tom kolman? >> before tom kolman. >> reporter: same day? >> same day. i looked at this person and said, "kind of always thought that was a sterile environment." and she said, "well, you should give that a check." so, we did. >> reporter: sure en...

Trust us to follow through on an agreement. thats close to unprecedented. >> joining us is republican strategist adam goodman and from washington simon rosenberg, president and founder of ndn a are center left think tank. adam, start with you. the president is embarrassed. is he embarrassed for the senators. wow, thats some big words. >> i think its much ado about nothing. first of all, this is not without precedent. you look at jim wright going down and having conversations with ortega at the t...

If you were wrongly accused, you could imagine dna as being the key to your freedom and in fact, dna has been the basis of exoneration in 316 convictions through the innocence project, a nonprofit founded by barry scheck, a member of o.j. simpsons defense team. i wanted to talk about dna in the context of race, because as we were just talking about, race is a social construct. it is not biological. yet in this case, that issue of dna and like the production of bodily matter became central to a r...

Denying negroes anything before o.j. when dna comes along, theres a critical mass of science and its understanding of its use, people were much more careful about it. you would think the mountain of evidence being used against o.j. proved again, something you said thats very important, black peoples skepticism about technology, it wasnt about technology itself, its about technicians. its not about science, its about scientists. its the use of it. so when we discovered that oh, yeah, some of that...