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Talk about payment reform and delivery system reform in 140 characters. its hard to talk about in the a snapshot and soundbite. but its easy to talk about it when you talk to a family whos gotten life-saving treatment at a place where they were uninsured five years ago. they walked into the emergency room. they could not get treatment they needed but now theyre getting care and better and so ive talked to these ceos and health systems. ive talked to the leaders that run hospitals, i work with th...

Health care system that has been reformed its almost like the conversation about whether you should eat broccoli and spinach. everybody knows broccoli and spinach is good for you. and what the republicans are trying to get us to do is understand that we dont need broccoli and spinach, they want to give us a happy meal box but theyre not going to tell us whats in the happy meal box. what im clear about, broccoli and spinach is good for you whether you like it or not and happy meals are not good f...

I believe theyll do that. yes. >> jess? >> no. >> all right, bold prediction from jess mcintosh. anton gunn, jess mcintosh, thanks to both of you. still ahead, obamacare is just one of the battles democrats are preparing for in the trump era. up next, california takes bold moves to brace for the incoming president recruit ago former u.s. attorney general. later, donald trumps self-imposed deadline for revealing allegedly new information on the russian hacking has come and gone. the incoming pr...

Stand. we need to emulate what the republicans did in 2016. >>ed that -- that had nothing do with obamacare, i just want to giveou a chance to hear him say that. thank you, karen bass. >> thanks for having me o >> joining us now is jess mcintosh and anton gun, a health care strategist extraordinaire. im going to come to you first on this, jess. heres the thing. republicans have been saying for so long that theyre going to repeal and replace, repeal and replace. its a catch phrase but they never ...

>> joining us now is jess mcintosh and anton gun, a health care strategist extraordinaire. im going to come to you first on this, jess. heres the thing. republicans have been saying for so long that theyre going to repeal and replace, repeal and replace. its a catch phrase but they never had a risk of having to do it because they always had barack obama to save them from themselves. >> right. >> now that they have to do it, do you think they will go forward? >> i dont. i think republicans really...

So that people can actually get better faster and live the lives they want and deserve. so all of this conversation around we got multiple plans, well, if youve got multiple plans, that means you dont have a plan at all. and so you cant repeal the aca and leave this gaping hole in a health care system that has been reformed its almost like the conversation about whether you should eat broccoli and spinach. everybody knows broccoli and spinach is good for you. and what the republicans are trying ...

Homeowners deadbeats if they couldnt pay their mortgages but suddenly became this really well-funded faux grass-roots kind of thing which just went after health care every minute, every minute. it had all the optics you needed. do you see evidence that democrats can figure out how to message discipline, get adds on the air and actually do the mechanics of politicking? >> i dont think we can replicate the republican strategy because we are bound by principle and an ideology that government is sup...

They could not get treatment they needed but now theyre getting care and better and so ive talked to these ceos and health systems. ive talked to the leaders that run hospitals, i work with them and they believe the affordable care act means a whole lot to them and its allowing them the opportunity to do what they do best, thats save lives. im not talking one or two, im talking tens of millions in cities across the country. >> we do know for certain the uninsured rate in 2009 was 16.4%, now its ...

Its not about everybody wearing shirts saying "make america sick again." itsaking sure america knows the real-life consequences to their families and neighbors of what republicans are trying to do. thats the democrati mandate. >> i believe we have anton gunn, a health care strategist who used to be with the department of health and human services. anton, lets talk about the practical things, what democrats would be showing the country is happening as ook is rolled back. can you talk about how --...

Back in the game. >> i dont know but -- dont wish that on me. but i would say this. theyre both known commodities. you dont get anybody perfect in the diverse political atmosphere at this point. bush is from a key swing state and outreach to voters of the hispanic community. a great race to watch. >> we know that his mother doesnt want him to run. >> shell vote for him. put that on the record. >> former hhs official, anton gunn, beth fuey and tom davis not running for president, thanks to all of...