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Five children in six years in one week, and i keep saying people say things like that, when you have five children in six years and one day, we can talk about what business it is of any of us to tell anyone els to do. i believe that god has given us free will to honor our responsibilities. >> move over thomas aquinas, that was quite a dissertation. that made no sense whatsoever. >> who says i am pro-life and i want to quote this, im pro-life , i come from pro-life family, but im not active in it...

So, it gets complicated the later you wait. and my advice to vice-president biden, his staff are watching, dont wait too late. neil: are they really? >> dont wait until too late and theres a sense of urgency. what people want is someone who can win the nomination. neil: i think youre right. you say dont dither around about getting in. i think they all feel its going to be a crowded field, but their chance is just as good as anyone els. we raised this by the way with congressman of ryan. and he c...

Theories thats as good as anyone els. >> can i say just one thing on that -- >> hold on let me say -- before i yield the floor. >> youre not in congress but go on jack. >> i think im the only one on this panel who was involved in the campaign who went to trump towers who was part of a daily phone call and i can tell you i absolutely never met carter page as part of the campaign in fact i met him the first time in the cnn green room in new york city. he was not in the inner circle. >> did you mee...