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The first is that, you know, the other day i was speaking to a white house official actually well before this report came out about why it is that this president seems so willing to instruct aides, because he has done it before on other projects to do what needs to be done regardless of whether its legal. and this person told me, you know, donald trump is a businessman. he ran his companies by just knowing you get sued over things. and its another example -- take jared kushners office of america...

Differently because hes an outsider. in my experience, working in government, political leaders are indiscreet with each others and people they shouldnt be revealing things to all the time. you should hear the way diplomats and civil servants talk about their political principles. they literally talk about going around with a poop scoop to clean up the messes they make. this is normal. it happens. they are human beings. because it is president trump and because hes an outsider, the system, to us...

It is still intimidation but why didnt he tell the ranking member of that committee mark warner? >> bret: or mccabe or rosenstein. >> everyone should have been informed of this. thats a very good question. talking about whats happened to republicans in the last seven days, i spoke with him until thursday. he went on national television. he did the tweet about the tapes the next morning. they spoke to me today. crickets. i couldnt get them to talk to me about the leaking in the oval office of the...

Has a history of threatening to resign. he did not in this case. >> bret: why i asked for congressman -- >> its an apt point. lastly, president trump is mistaken if he thinks he can go on that foreign trip, his first foreign trip, a very important one, to saudi arabia, israel, the vatican, and not be asked about this when he wants to focus on grander issues. if you just send out sean spicer or sarah huckabee sanders or other people to do his talking for him over the next couple of days, he has a...

Those moments for you. >> lets go back further than that. we could go, james comey was fired and the president got very upset about the fact that his communications shop didnt seem to have an instantaneous plan in place. we were left to run around and collect as much information as we got at that point. last night, we had h.r. mcmaster, the national security advisor, come out about two hours after the news broke about the russian story. tonight we have a background statement from the white house...

Be surfacing now after hes been fired. why wasnt he apprising anyone of this, what he had his supporters obviously see as an apparent obstruction of justice by the president. why wasnt he apprising any one of its in a more timely way? >> bret: the calls on the hill for, if there are tapes, to hear them, see the transcripts. to have comey testify. they are going to increase. we have tried to make to get republicans to come out and talk to us. and there are not republicans willing to go on camera ...

Director who was fired but what matters is going on on capitol hill. they call comey before a hearing and he starts to testify, its an entirely different matter. >> bret: over the past couple days, since the tweet about tapes, the press secretary sean spicer has been asked repeatedly at the white house briefing if there are tapes, can they confirm. there really hasnt been any answer on that front. >> no, i mean, its completely ambiguous. we dont know if the president was just hurling a hollow th...

Affected details of this memo wp within a very tight circle of department of justice and fbi officials. that had to be a very tight circle indeed of andrew mccabe was not included in it. i want to close at one point about dreams comey and one one t about donald trump. james comey was formerly deputy attorney general and the bush-cheney first term. at a certain point, his boss, the attorney general, became ill and allocated his authorities come his powers, to the deputy attorney general, james co...

The fbi. there is a paragraph in the middle of the story that hasnt gotten enough attention he in which he reports that when mr. trump was meeting with james comey in the oval office, he began the discussion by condemning leaks to the media and suggesting that -- ill quote from the story "that mr. comay should report putting reporters in prison for publishing classified information." at that point, he turned to the issue of flynn. this conversation allegedly came one day after flynn had been fir...

Accurate? and who is going to look at the united states as the pinnacle of virtue and a paragon of western leadership when this kind of damage is hanging over the chief executive. it is in our interests and their interests and his interests to get to the bottom of this. >> bret: why do you think director comey didnt resign? >> i have no idea. i think director comey didnt believe there was any substantial grounds for what he would resign. >> bret: if the president was asking him, as you suggest, ...