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Area in terms of whether or not youre a citizen -- >> neil: madison -- okay, okay. i just worry, madison, that we have sort of morphed the two together to say theres no distinction. theres a very big distinction. >> absolutely, the word missing here is illegal. theres a different between illegal and illegal immigrants. they came to chase the american deem. they took all the right steps before coming here. theyre proud of that. so many other families feel the same. what we need to remember when w...