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Really thick ones. he was carrying a dark rifle and he was just pointing at people and just shooting and, yeah, the last thing i saw, he shot somebody that was in a corner and he just picked up the rifle and just walked into walmart. gillian: was his face covered? >> no, it wasnt. he had -- the only thing he had on was the ear muffs and dark, black hair. he was probably 510", 511", maybe late 30s maybe. i couldnt really see his face. rob: did you say you saw a woman get shot in the parking lot a...