And the president needs something to energize his base. Nothing would energize republicans more than lets save the president. Good to see you and welcome back. A morgan, let me just try and start with you. Because giuliani is now saying maybe this whole investigation will help republicans come november. Well, yeah, i think the president has actually said that himself at amou lot of these rallies, of theyre going to try to impeach me, to motivate his base. Theyre looking for things to galvanize their base, and the president tends to turn things on their heads. He wants to energize the base, will it work . I think one thing Law Enforcement tends to be bad at and that eegsz mos politics. The latest news from around the world with host Brooke Baldwin. The president s team doesnting want doesnt want to do that especially this close to the election. But their jobs are to protect him. Rudy giuliani is not a trial attorney, so hes not representing the president in a court of law, he is there a
the president s team doesn ting want doesn t want to do that especially this close to the election. but their jobs are to protect him. rudy giuliani is not a trial attorney, so he s not representing the president in a court of law, he is there as the p.r. attorney, and i think he s doing the right thing for p.r. attorney. this is public show. he s not litigating in front of a jury. so what s mueller s best option? in general to date i have thought, never second guess mueller, he knows what he s doing, and he does. but i think it s fruitless to carry on these negotiations, if indeed he is. we only have this from giuliani s side. it s a p.r. effort on his part. trying to sit down with him, i think asking trump questions that aren t under oath really isn t enough.
this is they re fighting it out in the court of public opinion. you would never handle a normal investigation like this. because again, anything you said. now bill, you turn the only thing that should matter is the trump tower meeting is not evidence of an espionage conspiracy. legally that s what matters. if you fight every single thing about the tape. it s a one week story, what does the tape say? did he lie? the tape doesn t prove a crime. bill: trump tower final question. to have the meeting is not illegal. right. bill: to lie about it is not good you aren t under oath. that s not a crime. where is the crime here? well, in the narrow meeting at the trump tower there is no crime. the question is does it fit in within a context of proving an espionage conspiracy between the trump campaign and russia which is the rationale for the
oath. just a staff meeting. typically those aren t under oath. of course, it is a crime to lie or mislead congress in any way. so the bar is very high. today, jared kushner for the first time laying out in detail 11 pages worth of his past meetings, saying he met during the campaign season and during the transition with russians officials, staff officials going back and forth for weeks and months with jared kushner about these meetings, started talking to him in march about we do expect that to be under oath as well. very big week for jared kushner,