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Too expensive, the moderates argue. too risky against trump, they added. >> when we win run on real solutions things that are workable not fairy tale economics. >> this is a wish list economics. >> what i dont like about this argument right now, what i dont like about it at all is that we are more worried about winning an argument than we are winning an election. >> warren and sanders may well be in each others way down the road but last night they were a center stage tag team, swatting back the...

Argumentability argument. that puts pressure on joe biden tonight to be a stronger moderate, if you will, to make a more passionate case. moderates tried last night. several might be gone from the race within days. to warren and sanders, one of their biggest points was you cannot pass your version of medicare for all, that would take away employer-provided health care. you would be telling people who like their health care, 180 million people in america get their health care from america. you wo...

Campaign. for now its too early to say if voters will swallow this big change or not. biden has to make the case for why its too much. >> its way easier to make this argument if you are senator sanders or senator warren against john delaney than joe biden. its relatively low political risk to cast john delaney in the role of joe biden, which essentially happened. the guy barely cracked one percent. i think this was voters introduction to john delaney. joe biden is a former vice president. well h...

Inspired and why that, not the kind of policy questions that dominated last nights debate, is the kitchen table of the moment. theres actually a big wing of democrats who believe thats a true argument that democrats should be making. >> to your point, she may be at 1% or 2% in the polls. whatever she has she takes from somebody else and may keep them from getting into the debate. she forces the other candidates to be different. do not discount the power of different. one said donald trump would ...

Democrats regurgitate those and her answer on immigration, she pulled a little bit from julian castro there, but its one that i think can be effective. she was saying this change in decriminalizing border crossings, measures on the books will still make it so you can prosecute illegal border crossings. it doesnt open up the borders and it tackles that piece of the law that allowed the trump administration to separate families. >> she has been pretty unscathed by them in a little while. >> she go...

Thats what the moderates hope, the democrats who think this is too liberal, too expensive. you cant sell it all at once. theyre hoping joe biden can make that case tonight, that he is stronger and that he has a better answer. that was the question about the moderates last night. their answer was its too big or trump will shove this down our throats, not youre wrong. >> right. >> theyre not playing on the same playing field. a lot of those one percenters were trying to get in there. hillary clint...

This. why are we going to ram this down their throats? can he make it in a passionate way? >> he has kamala harris as a protagonist in that argument that he will try to make as forcefully as they can. i think they recognize the fallout from the last debate in raising questions about, you kn know, how aggressive he can be and, you know, how up for prime time he really is on a debate stage. you raised tim pawlenty earlier. cory booker has forecast this had line of attack on joe biden and his crime...

Insurance people like from their employer. hickenlooper, there, you cannot decriminalize border crossings. that sends a signal. passion and boom a smack back, warren and sanders stood center stage saying no, this is our party now. were in the middle because this is our party. >> it felt, at times, like a high school basketball team playing an nba team. progressives on the center of the stage were emphatic and good debaters and on the sides of the stage, you had people still fighting for oxygen. ...