MSNBC Morning Joe October 19, 2021 10:41:00
>> he maintained a level of -- he was able to rise before. >> an idea that i think so many in the national security circles, i think fondly after the debacle and he really rise and he had the successful navigation in world war ii. hes associated with the marshal plan and you look atgeneral powell, hes managing to hit that kind of apex and so few, other military leaders and political leaders ever hit. >> all right, i want to bring in dr. vin gupta.
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