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Which i think is just highlighting the difficulty you could not really even agree on what are the parameters to the discussion? u.s. is thinking about this in terms of more military response, troop deployment. other people cannot really even agree on economic sanctions are the most appropriate answer here. paul: lets step back a bit and answer this question for our audience lists are with you, joe. what is the u.s. interest in keeping ukraine independent of russia? u.s. national interests? rex i...

On his part that were pretty appalling. >> mike, give me most appalling moment in 2016. go. >> ill lump them together. it was the debates becoming an applause meter roman circus show. that was the worst moment of the whole campaign in the primary. >> you cant say that on tv. >> yes, you can. >> you can now. >> and i was smiling when i said it. >> mike murphy, you know whats going to happen now? the shows going to go off the air because of you. >> who thought we could sit here two and a half year...