Page 26 - August 2016 News Today

Who is he protecting by lying if anyone. and why? >> and julia we have to keepve stopping ourselves, mimi trying to emphasize one of these instances has trumps campaign chairman handing over polling to a our be, thats not done, thats not normal. we have had three people now, flynn, we have had cohen, and manafort found by a federal judge to have lied about the same thing and its all related to russia. >> right, brian, you have to ask yourself did the president surround himself with people who ar...

Anyone. and why? >> and julia we have to keepve stopping ourselves, mimi trying to emphasize one of these instances has trumps campaign chairman handing over polling to a our be, thats not done, thats not normal. we have had three people now, flynn, we have had cohen, and manafort found by a federal judge to have lied about the same thing and its all related to russia. >> right, brian, you have to ask yourself did the president surround himself with people who are not honest brokers and continue...

Still a question of who is he protecting by lying if anyone and why. >> mimi just tried to emphasize one of these instances has trumps campaign chairman handing over polling to a russian. thats not done. thats not normal and to mimis other point weve had three people now, weve had flynn, weve had cohen and manafort found by a federal judge to have lied about the same thing and its all related to russia. >> right, brian, so you have to ask yourself is it just the president surrounded himself with...

Decision is the last graph where she said -- the judge said that these were the cases but she was still to decide how it would play into his time served. as jeffrey said, this is just one case. this is going to go on and on. back to our question of a pardon. he has held firm. the president has maybe hinted, put out there that pardons for people who hold firm are more likely. i think they have to be hoping that that might happen. >> just to put this -- >> thats an understatement. >> with paul man...

Caref carefully. that august -- early august 2016 meeting involving manafort, rick gates, this russian, what do you make of that? apparently, the mueller team thinks thats at the heart of this collusion investigation. >> if there was a movie, this would be the stage set. the grand havana room is on the top floor of the ed building th jared kushners family owns. its the haunt of rudy giuliani. everything happens at the grand havana room, this slightly seedy club with velvet drapes everywhere. now...

Probably put himself and his family and the president, his best chance at a pardon, at risk. when you look at the other defendants in this case from michael flynn to michael cohen to richard gates, so many of them, when confronted with evidence, have chosen to be cooperators. paul manafort is the outlier here. i think thats because he fears what happens to people. theres a lot of evidence of this. who turn over the goods that they have on russia and ukraine, which ends up being poisonings or fam...

Amount of jail time. >> they are suggesting that manafort had in early august 2016 right after the republican presidential convention with a russian national who was considered to be russian intelligence. it could become the heart of this investigation. >> and this is what the special counsels office spent lot of time asking manafort about. they wanted to know about this meeting. it took place in new york at a cigar bar kind of the grand havana room. it was in august while he is the chairman of ...

Doing it in person. inside the grand room they talked about ukrainean policy by lifting economic sanctions. manaforts lawyers said any peace plan idea was crazy and they have repeatedly argued he never lie today prosecutors. days before they met many manhattan they sent him a cryptic note saying they met with a man who had given him the biggest black caviar jar several years ago. they say black caviar was code for money. prosecutors also seem to be looking at whether this august 2016 meeting was...

He is in prison right now. it got potentially 7, 8, 10 years ahead of him. whats the point of lying at this stage in his life? >> i think it certainly leads one to believe what is he hiding? is he trying to protect the president? is he trying to hold out for some type of a pardon or some time of clemency or something here. we have to wait and see what the judge says here. its one of the many mysteries around this. it goes back to the part of the case here, the august 2016 meeting and near the tr...

Just days before they met in manhattan, the russian sent manafort a note saying he had met with a man who had given manafort the biggest black caviar jar. the post saying they believed it was code for money. prosecutors also seem to be looking at whether the august 2016 meeting was when paul manafort shared campaign polling data, something manaforts attorneys inadvertently revealed in earlier court filings. this 2016 cigar bar encounter, it wasnt the only meeting according to prosecutors. they m...