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Interference. i think joe biden got everything he wanted out of this. i think the attention that putin is spending and his state-backed media are spending on joe biden is probably telling the story about how serious the kremlin takes the white house now. >> look, on one level this has to be man-to-man, right? putin and biden. i get covering it that way. this is at least on the american side also about what our president is able to do on their own. it was very interesting to me that we finally sa...

What he wanted to do was look putin in the eye and tell him what the deal was with the united states in a post trump environment, tell him the red lines that he couldnt cross. that makes it a lot easier for putin to go back to europeans who are now more willing to engage with the americans and set a common policy on ukraine, on cyber warfare, on election interference. i think joe biden got everything he wanted out of this. i think the attention that putin is spending and his state-backed media a...