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upcoming debate? austin first. >> i think it's pretty important. there are a lot of debates in a primary like this but joe biden -- last quoted it looked like he didn't want to be there and whether you think it was fair or unfair the other candidates went after him because he's a front runner and he's got to get more self-discipline and be better on his game if he's going to be the nominee. that said, i think he can do it. you see in the polls there's a lot of -- there's a wellspring of support that people like vice president biden. i hope that his advisors did not take from the last debate that what he has to do is attack the other people. i think he needs to set out a clear idea of what he wants to do. i hope it's not about hostility though. >> martha: he had that kamala harris moment, which was a very genuine moment for her, and she got a bit of a pop from that in the polls. cory booker is looking for a
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