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Come out and said, this isnt over, they are going to revisit a real repeal and maybe a replacement of obamacare in 2018. any sense of what that looks like? >> well, i think one of the things that surprised a lot of people this year is how surprisingly popular medicaid is. medicaid was always sort of the poor step child. medicare was the program that policy makers, lawmakers were afraid to touch. and yet the efforts to really pare back medicaid, not just take away the expansion, but cap it overal...

Those people into the health insurance system. >> a number of senators have come out and said, this isnt over, they are going to revisit a real repeal and maybe a replacement of obamacare in 2018. any sense of what that looks like? >> well, i think one of the things that surprised a lot of people this year is how surprisingly popular medicaid is. medicaid was always sort of the poor step child. medicare was the program that policy makers, lawmakers were afraid to touch. and yet the efforts to re...

Those people into the health insurance system. >> a number of senators have come out and said, this isnt over, they are going to revisit a real repeal and maybe a replacement of obamacare in 2018. any sense of what that looks like? >> well, i think one of the things that surprised a lot of people this year is how surprisingly popular medicaid is. medicaid was always sort of the poor step child. medicare was the program that policy makers, lawmakers were afraid to touch. and yet the efforts to re...

>> well, i think one of the things that surprised a lot of people this year is how surprisingly popular medicaid is. medicaid was always sort of the poor step child. medicare was the program that policy makers, lawmakers were afraid to touch. and yet the efforts to really pare back medicaid, not just take away the expansion, but cap it overall, were met with enormous resistance from republicans as well as democrats. so i think they may be surprised at how difficult it is to scale back medicaid. ...

Coverage, just wont be able to afford it. >> youe seen senators starting to approach senate, theres pressure to bolster some of those provisions, add more money to them for medicaid because these states cannot afford it already. they are struggling to make ends meet. if you start to cut back medicaid and the original republican plan paul ryans plan, the road map to americas future called for turning medicaid into a voucher system. to cut medicaid or change it fundamentally for decades but its --...

Major overhaul in the senate. and there are moderates with big concerns on the republican side. they dont like the house that the house bill weakens those protections for people with preexisting conditions and they dont like in places like ohio, scaling back medicaid, so this is going to undergo an overhaul befores all said and done. >> and the presidents saying the health care bill could change a little bit. that seems a huge understatement. >> its a massive understatement, anderson, but white ...

That cbo score. everyone instantly isnt going to come off of insurance as that score would indicate. were also going to have more options for people, different levels of options for people, the pre-existing -- chris: but youre rolling back medicaid. older people are going to end up paying five times as much or even more -- >> by the way, thats the old bill. thats before the amendments were put in. and its also before the senate takes the bill and makes it even better, chris. the point of all of ...