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There is also a downside, and our schools seem to be getting more rigid, less open to creativity. less open to unorthodox thinkin thinking. that is a bad a trend, then. >> it is. it is the nature and the structure, a massive system trying to push everybody through, same age group cohorts, you have to think beyond that kind of traditional rule following idea, and youve got to look at -- the opportunities out there, practice, we work with young people all the time, focus on trying to help them dev...

Entrepreneurship in the school context is called a cheating, creating problem-solving. i think breaking out of that mind-set, not looking at it like i need to go and study and get certified and do what i am told, and then i will be able to have a career, but rather, if i want to do something, be the next tucker carlson, go start a podcast, go start a youtube channel, get your hands dirty, experiment, tinker, that is the thing. >> tucker: that is such a wise point. im all for following rules, but...