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We also have a pilot joining us. cnn senior international correspondent matthew chance is we many as well. and richard quest is in the building as well. so there we dpo. dick, let ne go to you first. as an investigator into pan am, when you hear about the details now that they have the black boxes and the information they can get from that, you didnt have any of that when it came to locker by. you just went by forensics. totally different. >> well, about five days after the plane crashed, invest...

Down immediately. but the investigation which literally lasted about three years until the indictments was led primarily by the frenz you cans, which can included the recovery of clothing, suitcase, components of a radio, et cet a cetera. thats how we ended up involving the case. . >> when you talk about the s substance and it took the investigation three years, how long will it take investigators in this scenario to know without a shadow o of a doubt what took this plane down? >> when i look at...