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The president has, by my count, tried six or seven times to get infrastructure going. many of those times there were no investigations under way. so this feels like a red herring. >> the joke in washington is its infrastructure week every week. so the president campaigned, as you suggested, somebody who could get infrastructure done. he campaigned as a builder. the democrats in the house want to get infrastructure done. they like to do spending on big domestic projects, they believe that will he...

Issue with jeff sessions using biblical references to respond to this. the nuclear family, where children are raised, is a more fundamental social unit than a nation. the government has no right to place a national border between a parent and a child. we can have justice with mercy. it is possible to be tough on illegal immigration without being cruel to illegal immigrants. parts of the trump base dont like to see them. >> no question at all. i cannot think of one sector of the trump base that h...

Right? were both chicago hispanics, by the way, and i think we want to see daca kids -- theyre not kids, by the way. daca young adults protected. we do. i think that matters and thats compassionate. a lot of people in the trump base dont want to see that, and by the way i respect their view. i get their view that illegal immigrants however they got here are still illegal. so i understand theyre point of view. >> steve, youre not responding to what patty said. youre giving another narrative. you ...

$25 billion for the stupid wall, which really doesnt do much of anything, and he turned it down, steve. he keeps moving the goal posts and then he turns it down. >> the i.c.e. agents would beg to disagree that it doesnt do anything. also he said we have to end chain migration. it was the third critical compo component. so it was the wall, daca and an end to chain immigration -- >> steve, hold on. you didnt respond to anything patty said. you went from, well, we have to get the wall in. you said ...

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How we tried to do that, and then you went to chain migration. you keep moving the goal posts. they tried several times. dont you understand that? >> heres what i understand, don, and again i think patty and i probably dont agree on a lot, right? were both chicago hispanics, by the way, and i think we want to see daca kids -- theyre not kids, by the way. daca young adults protected. we do. i think that matters and thats compassionate. a lot of people in the trump base dont want to see that, and ...

Nancy. what followed was a lot of confusion. there is a deal, theres no deal. its a discussion, the wall is coming later, no, ilt needs to get done right now. heres just a taste of what the president said. >> were working on a deal for daca, baugh lot has to do with the amount of security. we want very heavy security at the border. we have to have an understanding what whether its in the budget or some other vehicle, in a fairly short period of time, the wall will be funded, otherwise, were not ...