if everybody around the table says hillary is the democratic nominee, what chuck todd if chuck is there, chuck, what does the democratic party do about numbers like this in iowa virginia and other important swing states colorado for god's sake? >> i was having this conversation with our own staff yesterday. fit wasn't for donald trump, the biggest story of the summer would be hillary clinton's problems solidifying herself inside the democratic party. >> really? >> it would be the bernie sanders boom. it would be this issue of you know, what we're seeing here i think, is both parties are seeing the populous base flex its muscles in different ways. i kind of think we need to move on from trump the personality and focus more on the people attracted to trump. that is an important storyeystory. >> would are these people? >> it is people i felt marginalized by a lot of thins,